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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 10, 2013 - 5:01pm

I found Mexican food to be generally disappointing on the East Coast, but I grew up in an area where the Mexican restaraunts where run by Mexicans to serve Mexicans so the food wasn't "Americanized". I found a few awesome spots when I lived out there, but when I moved back to California I must have eaten Carne Asada every day for a week.

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 11, 2013 - 1:30pm

It's really strange here because the majority of the best cooks at French, Italian and New American restaurants are from Mexico, and whenever I ask them where they go for Mexican food in NY, none of them have a go to spot and complain about the crappiness of NYC Mexi food. 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 11, 2013 - 1:30pm
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Nathan Scalia from Kansas is reading so many things November 12, 2013 - 6:00am

I don't know why I just tried reading this whole thread, but I'm definitely not a better person from the experience.

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On November 12, 2013 - 12:47pm

Nathan, it's a certainty that this thread will NOT get anyone who've posted on it laid.

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Gordon Highland from Kansas City is reading Secondhand Souls by Christopher Moore November 12, 2013 - 2:30pm

While writing is unlikely to, I bet reading actually has a better chance of getting one laid. Like John Waters said, "If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, don't fuck 'em!" Similarly, if I see a bunch of modern country CDs on someone's shelf, or Adam Sandler DVDs, that can tank the libido.

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Nick from Toronto is reading Adjustment Day November 12, 2013 - 10:04pm

Yes. But my rate of return on "I'm a writer" is probably around ten percent. Works slightly more often on Tinder than face to face.

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Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading November 13, 2013 - 2:37pm

@Renee

It was like a... like a joke. But with humor. So like a kind of a... let's see, a funny joke. But also tinged with sadness, because: Truth. The Truth implied by the irony. Which made it an unfunny joke, or a funny fact. They are synonymous.

SEX. WRITING. MADNESS.

Can one man encounter all three at the local bingo?

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 14, 2013 - 5:25am

No Phil. And it weirds people out when you try.

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 14, 2013 - 6:12am

Bingo is full of a demo that digs me. Old ladies love me. My haircut reminds them of the first guy they climbed in the back seat with. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters November 15, 2013 - 8:06am

I don't really like burritos.  I'm not into flour tortillas. 

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Kelby Losack from Texas is reading Muerte Con Carne; The Summer Job; Bizarro Bizarro November 15, 2013 - 8:49am

Didn't read all 161 posts, but I'm with Sean of the Dead on this one. Now, I find your writing, Eddie, to be bold and crude and funny, but this discussion board on its own is a bit degrading--in a subconscious way, maybe--towards women, and men, since it's an anyone-welcome discussion and you're not alone in your way of thinking by a longshot. Which is unfortunate. It comes across as alpha-macho-sadism, objectifying other people as sex targets. And I know you will call me a sensitive Sallie or some other kindergarten insult thought up on the fly, so I won't rant, just know that this makes you an asshole. And you don't have to be. 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 15, 2013 - 9:11am

I'm not really a jerk, I just play one on the internet. 

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 15, 2013 - 10:15am

Eddie, I think all of us are kind of jerks and know that and try to work to work around it.  But sometimes I feel like it is a book club,  and the rest of us read The Perfect Assassin* by Ward Larsen while you read Perfect Assassian* by Wendy Rosnau.  Because there is a disconnect.

*I haven't read either of those books, or anything by those authors.  Know literally nothing about them.  I just picked them because they have the same name.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry November 15, 2013 - 2:46pm

Kelby, is it the question itself that you find misanthropic / sadistic, or some specific subset of comments that has occurred on it?

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Kelby Losack from Texas is reading Muerte Con Carne; The Summer Job; Bizarro Bizarro November 15, 2013 - 4:49pm

The question, Utah. I'm not trying to sound self-righteous or any shit like that, it's just... the whole, "let's turn [insert skillset] here into a way to get pussy" is objectifying, I mean you're looking for a human trophy, so yeah, that's exactly what it is. And it's sick. Sorry if it makes me too sensitive or not progressive enough or whatever, but, fuck. It is what it is, and I'm just saying, in my opinion, it's extremely insulting and a selfish mindset. 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 15, 2013 - 5:12pm

You just said that you weren't trying to sound self-righteous. 

You're hilarious. Bless your heart.

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres November 15, 2013 - 5:55pm

I wish it wasn't "cool" to act like a cynical jerk. 

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life November 15, 2013 - 8:43pm

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 15, 2013 - 9:37pm

Oh wow people we have hit over simplified at light speed.  Maybe it isn't stupid to want to be a decent person and have a lady in your life.  Just a thought.

@Sean - Having a spine and being a fake tough guy get confused; everyone wants to hang around/be/be with someone with a solid core you can trust when things get dodgy. Some people think if they act like they are dead inside/can laugh at anything others will like them/fear them/think that is them.  That stuff sorts itself out, so don't worry.

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Flaminia Ferina from Umbria is reading stuff November 16, 2013 - 4:12am

Acting like a cynical jerk is so past millennium.

And the same goes with the assumption that acting passively (or being picked up, or nod in the affirmative) should necessarily denote lack of control and is therefore demeaning.

The obsession with control is way more demeaning.

 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 16, 2013 - 5:03am

The outraged and offended brigade answered the initial question with their virginal replies. How about everyone else? Get any after a reading? Meet someone interesting b/c of your writing?

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 16, 2013 - 5:05am

My main problem with burritos has more to do with wraps than burritos. Wraps are an abomination, but without burritos, wraps wouldn't exist. They're just bootleg burritos. 

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Gordon Highland from Kansas City is reading Secondhand Souls by Christopher Moore November 16, 2013 - 5:58am

Meet someone interesting b/c of your writing?

Now this, yes. A thousand tiimes yes. Well, maybe a hundred.

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Kelby Losack from Texas is reading Muerte Con Carne; The Summer Job; Bizarro Bizarro November 16, 2013 - 7:12am

Virginal? 

I'm married, dude. How? I have some fucking respect for women. 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 16, 2013 - 9:19am

You certainly do. Everyone participating in this thread knows what a Sir Valiant you are. Love it when only dudes get outraged and women have a sense of humor about something like this. 

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 16, 2013 - 11:30am

For his humor to matter you'd have to be funny Eddie, but thanks for coming out.

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 16, 2013 - 3:21pm

Aren't you a peach?

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life November 16, 2013 - 9:12pm

This question still strikes me as pretty normal. If Eddie (where are the Cruisers???) were sitting down at a table with the lot of us, he'd probably ask the same question. I might. Utah might. What is it about this question that is so objectionable? He didn't ask 'Hey, any of you swinging dicks pull some snatch by writing?', he asked if anyone's gotten laid because of their writing. Kind of an interesting question. 

Kelby, what in the actual fuck are you blithering on about? Have respect for people; women don't need your protection. 

vir·gin·al
ˈvərjənl/Submit
adjective
1.
being, relating to, or appropriate for a virgin.
"virginal shyness"
noun
1.
an early spinet with the strings parallel to the keyboard, typically rectangular, and popular in 16th and 17th century houses.

So take that, you parallel-strung spinet!

That being said, no, I've never gotten laid because of writing. I can't even get my wife to read any of my stories. 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 17, 2013 - 5:00am

Jeffrey, thank you for that post. I can't get my head around the massive negative overration that happened on this thread. It even creeps me out a little. Mary Gaitskill started a lecture with something like, "People write to get laid, people write to release demons, People write to become famous, people write because they have to. Why do you write? Think about it. Now be honest with yourselves."

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 17, 2013 - 9:39am

Nothing is really wrong with the questions guys, or being a little wigged by it. But seriously... 

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 17, 2013 - 11:47am

Dwayne, it was you who began this campaign of cyber bullying against me. Then your homeboy from Kentucky joined in. I was just asking a question, and I was treated like a mid term ginger transfer student.

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz November 17, 2013 - 8:16pm

I also enjoy the absurd notion that wanting to have sex with someone for no other reason than just having sex with a someone is awful and objectifying. As if having a one night stand or not wanting anything beyond the physical is always inherently disrespectful. It takes two. I know plenty of consenting adults (myself included) that are cool with cheap, meaningless, good-time sleaze. And if you're trying to find a partner and while talking you mention that you're a writer (or a waiter or a mechanic or a barista or an IT guy) and that helps your cause, more power to you. 

OR

Lighten up, Frances. 

 

(all that said, on the rare occurences some woman is prone to moments of poor judgment and consider me an acceptable suitor, I think I'll hand out a morning after survey to find out why they slept with me. Then I'll know if it's because of my writing or if it's because i have hundreds of dollars in my bank account)

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life November 17, 2013 - 8:59pm

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like November 17, 2013 - 9:08pm

Hello, ladies. I have something I need help with and I need someone to help me with it. I am thinking about writing a book of new love poems. I haven't started yet because I can't decide on the title. I've narrowed it down to two possibilities. Please tell me which is more intriguing or arousing:

  1. Up In Them Jeans
  2. In Them Jeans

I feel like Up In Them Jeans is a bit more direct, though perhaps intimidating. It deals with movement and motion, conveying a definite sense that a journey is being undertaken, even if it is, in some cases, only a journey of the heart's desire. Whereas In Them Jeans displays more a sense of repose, considered distance, and objective circumstance; and while to traverse distance requires movement, In Them Jeans is clearly all about the destination.

Please.

What do the women think?

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 17, 2013 - 9:19pm

Um... not really.  We joke around.  An on going joke here is that I'm a dog with Asperger syndrome.  I pointed out dogs have k9 autism.   As a group we run with oddball humor, and try to look at what others say here to expand our view. Interactions with us are more fun if you adopt such.  Not required, but I won't deny joking back when someone seems deliberately stark, is worldly enough to have been published a few times, and comes across as a coherent guy who understands negative reactions/teasing from asking "has your writing ever helped you get laid?"  

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 18, 2013 - 5:48am

Thanks Otis and Jeffrey. I was starting to think this place was a White Knight hangout with 3 pages of "How dare you" nonsense. 

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres November 18, 2013 - 6:14am

This whole thing is fucking ridiculous and has turned into the notion that everyone is either a slut or a prude with no middle ground, which is equally ridiculous and offensive. 

Because I said that I think it's bro mentality to write (or do anything) with the end goal of getting laid doesn't mean I'm a conservative or virginal or anything else, nor does Kelby Losack saying he's offended by Eddie's abrasive dialogue mean that he's a loser and needs to be ostracized by the board. In no place did he say that he doesn't believe that women can stick up for themselves, so don't put words in his mouth. You guys are smarter than that.

Speaking of lightening up... god damn, just because someone gets offended by what someone else says on here doesn't mean they are horrible virginal "pussies" who are stupid and babble and need to get with the groupthink. That's offensive in it's own right.

Also, I believe Eddie has broken new ground...not only have I been called a "homeboy" for the first time in I don't know how many years, but I've found ideological common ground with Dwayne for the first time in my entire history on LitReactor. I'm impressed.

So, about these burritos...

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 18, 2013 - 6:24am

Burritos can't be praised without considering their legacy: The Wrap. In the moment, a burrito might be the best thing in the world, but longview: they've done more harm than good.

I judge food items like presidents. 

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres November 18, 2013 - 6:28am

I see what you mean, but I don't feel comfortable hating on Minor Threat based on the straight edge movement that (d)evolved since, and I can't hate Fugazi based on the long line of bad emo bands that have tarnished their image, so I feel that I have to judge each in and of themselves. 

When someone is shitting their brains out because they ate five crunchy, spicy, queso chalupas from taco bell, I don't blame Mexico, I blame taco bell and it's bastardizing of an amazing food genre.

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 18, 2013 - 6:55am

I'd rather think of Fugazi as post hardcore and they bands that were spawned from their influence would be Quicksand, Helmet, Therapy?, Avail instead of weepy haircut bands. 

As far as sXe bands...I loved Gorilla Biscuits and Bold, but once it got to Hate Edge, I had no interest.

I can't blame Ian for the wrong doing of others. Good point. Wraps are still garbage.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated November 18, 2013 - 7:03am

@Sean - It had to happen sooner or later.  I was putting off my 'kicking puppies is bad' thread to buy you sometime, but now that we've crossed the line...

http://litreactor.com/discuss/kicking-puppies-is-bad

@Eddie - Yeah, we do White Knight too much.  Sometimes, from other wise reasonable people to the point of me wondering if we all took head trauma over the weekend.  But the habit has kept us speaking to each other so far, and I've learned a lot here, so in this specific case it has been useful.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters November 18, 2013 - 8:02am

I love a good wrap.  What the heck guys? 

 

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts November 18, 2013 - 9:05am

Tostadas are the krishnacore of Mexican-American foodstuffs.

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 18, 2013 - 9:37am

Try explaining Krishnacore to people who weren't around for it, "Yeah, so a whole bunch of the dudes that hung out at CBGB and cracked skulls all of a sudden became Hare Krishnas, like they joined the cult and were in bands that sang about Hare Krishna shit." "No, I'm serious, look for Shelter, 108, Baby GoPal on youtube"

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Kristi from Connecticut is reading Anything I can get my hands on! November 18, 2013 - 9:43am

@ JYH: I would go with "Off with Her Clothes: Odes and Sonnets to the Fairer Sex" or "Great Pick up Lines Written by Writers to Help Them Get Laid?! {See that was a little Rocky and Bullwinkle for you! Two great titles for the price of one!} 

I've been quietly following this thread and with all the banter going back and forth it is a wonder anyone is getting laid...just sayin' And what's with all the hatin' on wraps? I'm with Avery!

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres November 18, 2013 - 9:47am

Shelter made me want to cry...

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Gordon Highland from Kansas City is reading Secondhand Souls by Christopher Moore November 18, 2013 - 9:57am

My writing has helped me get burritos.

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Carly Berg from USA is reading Story Prompts That Work by Carly Berg is now available at Amazon November 18, 2013 - 11:09am

Writing always helps guys get laid, since women are wildly attracted to men who make three pennies per year. Hahaha.

Also, I just offended myself. :p

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Eddie McNamara from NYC is reading High as the Horse's Bridles November 18, 2013 - 2:02pm

My wife just brought home Falafel wraps. Miserable.