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Negotiating Salvation (3400 words)
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Basic synopsis: In a morally righteous world where all evil is known as a "theft," a doctor commissioned by the government to develop a religious rehabilitation method realizes the moral compass is skewed and what he's doing is wrong.
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Did I explain everything well within the story? I've had this idea for a long time and it's just been sort of brewing in my brain, so I want to be sure it's spelled out clearly, especially the ending.






Comments
Hi Courtney,
Cool story. I really liked the way it starts in the middle of it all, without a ton of exposition. I think I understood what I was supposed to... as I read on, you revealed it, piece by piece. There's a clean sense of authority the whole way through, and it asks some really important questions.
Thanks for being one of the first to share! You set the bar pretty high.
Kristin
Just for my sake of not mixing up or losing your story once I downloaded it (I also had to copy & paste it as it DLed as a read-only copy) I would hope you put your name and the title at the top of further drafts.
I'm afraid that your concern is correct, things do need to explained a little better in the story. Clarity was an issue for me, hard to keep track of the characters and the scenes could have been established in more detail at the start of each one, the action more clearer, and the futuretech given more exposition. I don't want my comments in the LBL to come off as harsh at all, I just try to point out where exactly you start losing me in each scene. Maybe it just felt rushed, there's a lot more potential for the story with more description. I wish it were more clear cut like your synopsis, I didn't really get much of that at all from the story. Where was the government involvement? I never really caught on to the "theft" thing. The "theft of forgiveness" I couldn't really understand as a concept.
I think you did a pretty good job on the epilepsy research. The "god helmet" sounds a lot like the real science of electro-convulsive therapy. The process you describe sounds more like you'd electrocute a guy to death long before anything got to his brain. It might be worth doing some more research into the technology, as you got the pathology pretty realistic otherwise, and maybe even developing it even further to be more futuristic, as we pretty much use technology to induce sight-specific seizures already. The wand thing, I had no idea how to actually picture it in my mind, but I liked the technology. I wish it went more in depth to that too.
The thought-reading thing? That really needs to make much more sense. And I think for clarity's sake, whenever anything, a character, a setting, an concept, is introduced, it'd be best to at least explain enough to get the jist right then, that way I wouldn't be lost for a couple sentences until I figure it out. Easy fixes. Cool concept.
Thanks for your notes! The God helmet is actually real, so I was using the existing literature on it to explain how it works and I'm not sure how to do that without getting into scientific babble that even I don't understand. Do you have any idea of how to do that?
Ah, cool. I'd never heard of it before, but a quick google sheds a lot of light. I think in the science fiction genre, babble is perfectly expected. The God Helmet seems to function by use of electromagnets instead of electric conduction like I thought. I think you can mess around the technology enough intelligently to create the particular doom machine you want without it dragging down the story too much. Just covering the look of the helmet device and the nest of wiring coming from it, electromagnets whirring and loose metal around the machine jangling, quick and brutal zaps to the dude's forehead that send him into a nasty twitching mess. Intense images, but vague descriptions of the actual science would probably give the most realistic effect.
Clearing up the tech would really add a bit more weight to Ansari's later speech about how he changed the boy, really make that section sing as well. Good luck with this, an exciting story so far.
Thanks for the advice! A class of mine covered neurotheology last semester and the idea has been bubbling since, so I've been frantically consulting my notes and everything but couldn't really come up with a decent way to work it in; I've never really tried hard sci-fi, so it's nice to have input. You've really helped shape it into what it needs to be. Thanks!
Good stuff, Courtney. I had a hard time understanding the end, though. At first, I thought Aamin had administered the treatment on himself and part of the side effects was his ability to read minds/thoughts. Then later, it became more aparent that he was God, or godlike. However, I'm about 70% sure this is the case. Also, I think there could be more of a build up to Aamin's realization about the The God Helmets failure. It seemed rather sudden for me.
The writing was clean, concise, tight, and overall very good. It was a quick read. I sincerely enjoyed it.
Matt
This one really bugged me. The story seemed fractured, disjointed in a way that I couldn't keep up with. The italics trick for mind reading also threw me. When I first saw it I thought you had made a typo. Reality seemed to flow around Aamin in a haze and I could get a picture of him or your world.
I appreciate the time you took to read and respond, but could you give me any more substantial notes to clear up your comments? I know it's difficult to keep up with all the stories in the contest, but I'm not sure what you didn't like other than the italics, and those were meant to be intrusive and jarring so you'd make special note of those passages.
I ran through the story again and commented in the doc file attached. (Can you see those ok?) The problem with the italics is that I didn't catch what was going on with them. There wasn't enough or any reaction on the part of other characters to indicate that something other than normal was going on. I kept seeing them as an editing mistake instead of as a difference in how information was being communicated.
The disjointedness looks lik some missing transition markers that I couldn't distinguish on my kindle as missing. (I've marked them with a comment in the attached document.)
Does this help?
PS: To be fair, I had a trouble reconciling your portrail of who Aamon was supposed to be as well. Something seemed too Human, too weak in comparison to what he was supposed to be.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this, I really appreciate it. Thanks so much!
Glad to be of service! Keep at it!
Quite an interesting read. I've attached a LBL document you can peruse.
I think you're onto something with this, but it does need some work to hammer out all the rough edges. There are a decent number of grammer issues to work out. Mostly sentences that end up not being as clear as they could be. I'd read the whole thing out loud and if it doesn't sound like how you might tell a story to a friend, then revise that sentence.
You've got a cool idea, and you've got interesting characters. I think the way you started out the story was pretty captivating--right in the middle of the action. I had no problem with the God Helmet (yeah, go ahead and describe it in more detail). I don't have to know how it works to trust you that it does.
Some notes:
I'm not sure the interlude with Apple and her lover serves your story as written. If Apple were the main character, then it would probably be critical, but since she's not, it can probably just be cut. I don't think there was any information in there necessary to understanding what's going on. That said, taken entirely on it's own, it was a GREAT scene.
The italics-for-thought reading was very confusing. I also thought it was a typo. I think you need to be very clear about who is saying what, and how it's communicated. Especially early on, the reader doesn't have enough information to deduce what the italics mean. I really couldn't tell if somebody was speaking, or if somebody was hearing. I'm sure there's a way to communciate what you want and be a little clearer.
The biggest source of my confusion was the ending. You gave me a lot of information, but not enough to really deduce what actually happened. Here's what I've pondered/concluded so far:
- Aamin was God/Creator (or a vessel for such). He called everybody "my son" and "my daughter"
- God used the God Helmet to remove fear from certain people
- God decided this was a bad thing
- God decides to cut Himself off from humanity
Let me know how wrong I am. I think my basic question is why would God go to all this trouble?
It's okay to make your reader have to think about your story to get it, but I feel like the evidence should be a little clearer.
I hope this helps you for your next draft of this story.
Thanks for the extensive review! Your notes were incredibly helpful, so I'm expecting the LBL to be the same.
Actually, you were spot on with the ending, save one major flaw: he isn't removing fear. That was the section I was afraid would muddy things up. He's removing "criminality" by inducing religion (turning criminals into the convicts who find God behind bars and transform by their lives), but realizes he's actually inducing fear in the process, which is robbing them of their free will -- leaving them ultimately susceptible to things like religion which could change them entirely.
I tried to make "God" or Aamin as loving as possible so it would seem like what he did was in character for him -- the idea of him going to all the trouble is what makes him such a loving God, and what leads him to, well, kill himself. Can't figure out a way to make that clear, but that's the ending -- in my mind at least.
Sorry for the long-winded response -- I wanted to answer your questions without coming off as defensive, because I really think you've got the flaws of the story dead-on. Thank you again for the valuable comments!
Thanks for the clarification. I think you have a unique idea here, and it's certainly worth pursuing. Don't give up! Bodyslam this story into submission!
Excellent job. I really enjoyed it. I felt like I knew the twist before I should have though. The way he referred to everyone as son or daughter initially made me think clergy, but clergy didn't fit, leaving only one suspect. That being said, it was tightly constructed and tightly written. The fact that you came in under 4000 words is impressive. I know myself and many others have had problems getting the message across in the limited space.
Courtney,
I agree about the muddled ending, but I'm not going to go so far as to say that is completely bad. I read the comments above and so I know what you intended, but with some minor work you could make Aamin part of Apple's mind, or vice-versa. This was my primary suspicion as I finished reading. I agree the sex interlude with the foreigner may not add much but it is very good at introducing Apple, so I'm not going to say that should be cut.
For me, the most jarring aspect of your story is the occasional drop of a dialogue tag. Also, you don't introduce your italics as the telepathic/mind speaking clearly. I had to work for that, and it's crucial to the story.
Overall, you write extremely well. I found your spelling, grammar and punctuaion to be excellent and precise. Perhaps you're a great proofreader, but either way the end product is good, right? Keep that up. You have a great way of narrating and working dialogue in to break it up into digestible chunks. Please keep writing. I believe you can sell what you write. Thumbs up from me.
Tom
As I started reading this, I quickly realized that you and I have been reading a lot of the same articles lately about the “god helmet.” In fact, it’s funny me how much our stories overlap! Hopefully I can get mine up before the deadline in order to compare.
Ok, more importantly as to YOUR story. I like what you’re exploring here. I think you’ve got a good handle on the philosophy you want to explore. I would love to see a bit more in terms of world-building. For instance, where on Earth are they (if on Earth), and when. How far into the future is this? Doesn’t feel too far, and though you don’t need a specific date, some sense of how far ahead this takes place would help place the reader in the temporal sense.
I did feel a little jarred at first when you started the second segment with Apple. It felt like it was from a completely different story, but eventually you began to touch again on the same themes. I think a little more on this guy’s character would help. He basically feels like a one-night-stand--a kind of sounding board through which some exposition could be expressed. That’s actually a cool way to weave it in, and what I learned her of the world is really helpful and cool. But if you gave him a little more individuality and some interesting or quirky traits, then it won’t just read as a mouthpiece guy, but a more developed character. Does that make sense? I shouldn’t take much to do at all.
I’m a bit confused by the ending here. How is she also able to read his mind? Assuming Aamin is god, that is. Or is Apple god? Or is that the point? A little more clarity here would help give you the impact you’re going for. I wish I was up to task to suggest what that could be though. It’s a toughy because you had the balls to tackle something tough:)
Overall I really respect what you’re exploring here, and that you’re taking sci-fi a higher philosophical realm where I believe it belongs. If you’re asking hard and controversial questions with it, what the fuck is the point? Would love to read any follow-up to it.
I've attached an LBL as well.
Thanks, Dino! All these notes are really helpful.
If you want, I have a few articles on TGH I could share. We studied in my religion class last semester and I couldn't get it out of my head. It's fascinating, though, right?
Yeah, a lot of people have said the ending isn't too clear -- Aamin is God, which is why I had him say "my son, my daughter" and all that shit, but I can't figure out how to put it in any better! You're guiding me in the right direction though.
Oh, and THANK YOU for the notes on Apple's sex scene. A lot of people noted that it's extremely jarring, and you're right: it's all exposition nonsense. The tips you gave me will really help make that a better scene, though!
Hey, if any of that helped, I'm glad.
Courtney,
I actually loved this story and didn’t have a problem following any of it. And it reads like it’s a much shorter story than it is. I attribute that to all the great dialogue. The end can be stronger, but I’ll get to that in a minute.
The points that Ethan pointed out and the one you corrected him on was all evident for me. I didn’t read any of the other reviews until I read your story.
I think the Apple Sex scene was a good introduction to her character and works if you want to make her character more influential in the story, but as it stands now she seems only to be in the story as a way for you to communicate to your audience the thoughts and words of Aimen.
I feel like that is her only roll so anything aside from that is irrelevant to the story. However, I think you should develop her more and make her a huge part of the story. I want to know how she is affected by the revelation at the end, and what actions if any she does to change or keep things the same way. If it was intended to be implied, then it was lost on me. I feel like this story could be more powerful if it were about Apple or equally about her and “God” she can represent “Humanity/eve”(which I think you’ve done decent with that already but you have opportunity to expand), but maybe that’s just me.
Personally, I think the Italics were clever and didn’t trip me up at all, but they may just be because I’m familiar with your work and know that you wouldn’t have sloppy mistakes. When I saw the Italics I knew you were doing them for a reason and that reason would be revealed if I kept reading, and I think it was done quite well. But if the consensus is that it’s confusing then maybe a little explanation wouldn’t hurt. But not too much, because I hate being told by the writer, how to read it in the context of the text if you know what I mean.
While I got what you were going for in the end, and wasn’t confused by it, I wasn’t extremely thrilled with the summation. I was able to suspend my disbelief for the majority of the story because your authority was so strong through out, but in the end I feel like it’s being to expinationy and I really have trouble believing that Aiman is God. I guess that’s because of my preconceived notion of what “God” is or what he is supposed to be. Seems like he could do these experiments any way he wants so doing it in human form seems like the least plausible way. So I’m thinking that a considerable amount of defamiliarizing “God” might be necessary. For example, People say God is all knowing… That would imply he knows these experiments will fail. Right? In your story he is not all knowing so set that up.
So maybe in your story, “God” can only tamper with his “Creations” in attempts to “fix” them in human form. A la, Jesus Christ or in this case Aimen. And while remaining some of his spiritual power, He for the most part is confined to the natural laws of humanity. I think that may be what you were intending, but I don’t have enough information to know for sure.
I also have a hard time believing he would be so distraught that he would not want to “exist” anymore. He’s trying his damnedest to instill good. He realizes he failed, I think the natural course would incline him to fix what he failed. Maybe he can recruit Apple, in some sense to help with that?”
So I’ve rambled on enough. If you have any questions at all you know where to find me. The writing was tight as hell and damned good. Your themes were all great and for the most part executed with tight precision. I just think to get exactly what you are going for you or going to have to provide the reader with a bit of myth destroying so they can believe your “God” has limitations that the “god” they believe in does not. Hope that makes sense.
Great story,
--Jonathan--
Thanks for your comments! As always, they were spot on.
As for the Apple suggestion -- thank you! That was what I wanted to do originally (her tempting Aamin, her sexual promiscuity, and her direct nature were meant to make her a stand-in for Eve/femininity or humanity) and felt that it didn't work. Knowing that you were led there organically by the story, and not by my machinations, means that it works anyway and will definitely be included in the second draft.
Thanks again! I can't wait to read yours. Don't scrap it!!
Well, to your credit, you did name her Apple!
Courtney,
I found this a really interesting concept and it is so different to anything else I've read in this contest which is great! I liked the criminality being the theft of whatever was wrong - it's a satifying analogy. I was a little confused at the ending, but having read the other comments in this thread I'm glad to say I did get it :-) It's nice to leave the reader with something to think about, and as you progress through the story it does get your brain ticking over - which I'm sure was your aim! It might be worth being a little more explicit in the explaination just to make the ending really satisfying to the reader.
One minor comment is that sometimes I thought you over-described things, or that maybe the text wasn't quite punchy enough. I thought that there were a few sentences which were too long, and it might read better by converting some comma's into full stops. I think I mainly thought this on the first page though, after that I didn't notice it so much. It's possible that it's just a styling thing which I got used to quickly - I don't know?!
All in all a good read though, nice job :-)
Matty
Courtney –
This is a really great concept – it goes beyond using science to prove or disprove the existence of “god”, and goes straight into forcefully inducing faith, regardless of the factual basis for that faith. It’s a very powerful message that I think has a lot of potential.
I wasn’t a fan of the time jump at the end, though. It glossed over too many details that could help with the understanding of what’s going on.
Characters were a bit one-dimensional, so if this were a workshop submission, I’d give them 2 stars. I think they have the beginnings of real personalities and motivations, but they aren’t quite there yet. I’ve made notes in the LBL on areas where I think you could really delve into them to make these people more “real”, especially Apple. She ends up being an important character, and I find that I don’t believe her motivations or actions or abilities. I’d focus on all three of the main characters, but her most of all.
Dialogue tends to fall just this side of stiff and forced, so I’d give it 2 stars also. Some of the things they say don’t quite sound believable or “in voice”. There are a few areas where dialogue tags are missing, and those can go a long way toward showing us these people in three dimensions. They are marked in the LBL.
The name change from Dr Anansi to Aamin halfway through the story was jarring. If someone isn’t paying attention, they might miss that these are the same people. Maybe consider introducing him as Dr. Aamin Anansi in the beginning, so that you can establish his full identity early on and can continue to call him by either name. Or else just call him Dr Anansi throughout, because he tends to remain aloof, and calling him by his first name seems almost too familiar, considering his personality.
I really enjoyed the ideas presented here, and I think you’ve got quite a gem in the works. It just needs some editing love to really shine. Good work, and happy revisions!
--Christa
There are some really strong ideas and themes in here. The religious angle is strong, and I liked the idea that a Doctor would be a messiah figure; it was a neat mingling of religion/science. I must admit it lost me when you first used italics, and when I realised why, I had to do another read through and it made more sense then. I liked the narrative device of the questions asked of Ansari being used to reveal the exposition, though it is perhaps a tad overplayed at the beginning. Personally I don’t think you need to explain the God Helmet any more than you already do, I’m one of those people where the science just washes over me as white noise, so this worked for me perfectly. I understood the fear aspect and the free will part, and thought that made sense and worked very well. Apple’s line about fear taking away independence feels a little too knowing for her character, but it serves the narrative. The ending could do with a little more clarity, just to wrap it up a bit more succinctly. Apple’s bed talk part is a good glimpse into the character, as are her responses to the foreigner. You include two dissenting voices in the tale but neither give much pause for thought - you could up the conflict here and maybe give Apple slightly wavering beliefs to add more weight to the dissention. It would give her discovery of Ansari as God more power, you could make it a real Road to Damascus moment. This is a real challenging and thought-provoking piece of work, and I think it has great potential.
Hi Courtney,
story needs work, but may turn out interesting. The conflict at its root is inspiring, try to focus principally on it before you add other devices. The narration as it is now lacks cohesion, and you can fix it after you choose what you prefer: techy approach, or spiritual one. Mind that if you go with the spiritual/moral, the story will be less sci-fi and more, say, gothic.
You are a good writer, a bit cold for my taste, though. I like to see more of the characters' strong reactions, the uncontrolled sensations, what makes humans such, in short. Your characters are a bit stiff sometimes, but no offence. You're very young if I recall correctly, so you've got plenty of time to fix that. Or make it your style, idk. Real life experience is of great help when it comes to the fleshing of fictional people. No big deal, we're all learning and our stories feel more written than lived. Just try to dig further in your characters' discomfort. Dig until it hurts, don't just show it briefly. Readers love characters' discomfort.
My thoughts at the end:
*It is unclear why Apple doesn't like Josh. One might think she is the one who got raped, but that is not the case, I guess. It is unclear what Apple thinks about the doctor. Who should he be then? If it's up to the reader to decide it then okay, but it doesn't add much to the narration whatever way.*
More in the LBL. I hope you find my comments useful. If not, just ignore them.
Cheers,
C
Good story. Very inventive. It could use a good polish though. The first part flowed smoother than the rest of the story. I didn't really get the concept of the story though. The guy was an alien and took away people's free will and then felt remorse for doing so--I'm not sure I get it. But I did really like the tone and that you tackled religion. Very cool concept. Great job. ~Sam
Clever, clever premise. I was a bit thrown off at the beginning, and again when the italics started showing up, but as soon as it became clear, well, it became clear. Heh. Of course, the central premise is a disturbing one: that in order to be fully human, we must have the freedom to be evil. And disturbing is good. Good play on the 'must feature a non-human' rule, too. Not just in the protag, but in that MOST of the people in the story--at least most of the converts--aren't human any more (by the above definition).
It might help to introduce Apple earlier as his assistant--before we have her primary scene. When she appeared for the first time, I was associating her with the woman that had been raped. In fact, the early interactions with Josh may need to be worked on some. When I first read it--and maybe this just means I watch too much news--but I thought that when Josh says, "No, do you remember me from before" and they're both being secretive, that, well, Aamin (<--nice, by the way), had raped him. Thus, the story was tracking a lot differently in my head until that issue got worked out.
Even before that, I was seeing Aamin as a mad scientist type and figured that he was a fraud of some sort. Don't know if that was the effect you were going for, but figured you'd want to know my initial impressions.
Also, at least a couple of times when Aamin answers Apple's thoughts rather than verbal statements, what he says seemed like natural extensions of what he had just been saying and thus there was no real reason for her to question him on them. Only later, when she thinks something and his answer digresses considerably from what he had been talking about, would the thought-reading be that clear to her.
I enjoyed it. It was a quick read and gives us lots of good philosophical fodder.
PS (post-reading the comments above): Yup, lots of good comments on this one, most of which covered the stuff I said better than I did. Heh. The idea I really like is that of seeing this story from Apple's point of view. That could theoretically have thrown blown the 'feature a non-human' part of the rules, except that I have been interpreting that as: a non-human must be featured in the story--but not necessarily be the POV character. I could be wrong about that, however (fortunately, I think my story still covers the proverbial bases, even if my POV character is, at least genetically, human). In any case, I certainly think it would make it a stronger story, rather than weaker.
--Patrick...
The Human Argument
Courtney, I loved this! I'm going to do the unconventional thing with this challenge and just share my thoughts with you on gmail, given we talk amost daily on it anyways. I am super impressed at your spec-fic abilities, especially given you usually work in the real world with fiction.
Jess