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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated December 12, 2012 - 12:58pm

I waswondering how common it is for you guys to write about subjects/events that disturb you, include events that get under your skin, and what not. Do you go through in detail, gloss over it, just not do it, or some combo?

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life December 12, 2012 - 1:08pm

I've never written about anything that didn't disturb me.

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 12, 2012 - 1:13pm

Your lack of faith is my favorite theme to explore.

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks December 12, 2012 - 1:13pm

Almost nothing disturbs me. Animal/child abuse, incest, the farthest corner of disturbing, that's the shit that can get to me. I almost never find it necessary to write about it.

But, if I'm writing about something really close to home, or extremely emotional or intense, then yeah, it's hard to keep going. I just swallow, light a cigarette, and press on. Don't flinch. Don't turn away.

It's my therapy.

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres December 12, 2012 - 1:14pm

I think it's great to write about stuff that bothers you.  You're going to have a better perspective than many others because you have a base fear/aversion to it.  You will be able to describe the "thing" in a way other may not be able to because you have strong feelings inside yourself regarding it.  You will have a great opportunity to describe EXACTLY how it feels to be afraid/nervous/hateful toward whatever it is, because you really know, it is a genuine reaction that you have.

Plus, isn't writing (often) about getting the demons out?  What better way than have a character confront this thing head on?  Even if they lose in your story, you have lived vicariously through them and maybe written your way into a different perspective of said thing that bothers you.

Unless you're just writing for money, then fuck it, don't take any risks, play it safe.  If you keep avoiding the things that bother you, they'll go away, right?

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Brandon from KCMO is reading Made to Break December 12, 2012 - 1:17pm

The Joplin tornado incident was something that hit close to home and left a lasting impression on me. I kept the event the same but added a couple fictionalized characters to offer social commentary on all the looting and whatnot.

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 12, 2012 - 1:19pm

Writing is like acting; but acting is not like writing.

It's true.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 12, 2012 - 1:24pm

I'd say the best things I've written have been about things that bothered me.  But the only thing that makes them worthwhile is honesty. 

 

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 12, 2012 - 1:50pm

What the hell else is there to write about?

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres December 12, 2012 - 1:55pm

What the hell else is there to write about?

 

rainbows & unicorns...and by that, I mean that I am bothered by them both

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On December 12, 2012 - 1:56pm

 I  ONLY write about the things that bother me. Helps to put my world in context. Writing about things that are joyful would bore the shit out of me and take the joy out of it. 

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On December 12, 2012 - 2:00pm


Writing is like acting; but acting is not like writing.

Like. 

FLAG AS OFFENSIVE 

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 12, 2012 - 2:14pm

Maybe for Shakespeare writing was like acting.

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Angel Colón from The Bronx now living in New Jersey is reading A Big Ol' Pile of Books December 12, 2012 - 5:17pm

I take my writing as being a means to get a better understanding of what disturbs/bothers me.

Whether it hits close to home or not, there's a definite cathariss in being the creator of something that is repulsive or distressing to you.

From there, I guess it loses its power over you and the tables turn.

I'll admit to feeling a little out of my element on some of the more interesting things that have popped into my head, but I'll at least sketch it all out before shelving it.

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 12, 2012 - 5:19pm

Like. 

FLAG AS OFFENSIVE

Well, which is it?

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On December 12, 2012 - 6:00pm

@J.Y.: Which ever one you want. It's not easy being precise copying-and-pasting quotes into an iphone while fifty-feet up on a thin catwalk while trying to take floor-to-ceiling measurements of a moldy warehouse.

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life December 12, 2012 - 6:02pm

I like tons of offensive things. JY, why you gotta make everything mutually exclusive, maaan? It used to be about the music!

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 12, 2012 - 6:21pm

I've written about a lot of things that disturb/unsettle me. I think my best work comes from those places.

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Dorian Grey from Transexual, Transylvania is reading "East of Eden" by John Steinbeck December 12, 2012 - 6:39pm

I've never really written anything specifically because it disturbed me but I understand doing it. I probably should. But who wants to read a story about clowns with strap-ons?

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 12, 2012 - 7:16pm

Which ever one you want. It's not easy being precise copying-and-pasting quotes into an iphone while fifty-feet up on a thin catwalk while trying to take floor-to-ceiling measurements of a moldy warehouse.

I was just being facetious. Don't fall, Dino.

JY, why you gotta make everything mutually exclusive, maaan? It used to be about the music!

If it's gonna be about the music, it had better be about the music exclusively!

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On December 12, 2012 - 7:25pm

@J.Y.: So was I (being facetious). I got your intent; I'm just trying to avoid having to add "happy-face" icons to the end of comments--like this one!

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 12, 2012 - 7:28pm

:D

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 13, 2012 - 12:05am

dino -- So you weren't taking measurements? The warehouse wasn't moldy? You don't have an iphone? The catwalk was not so thin? It was only like ten feet off the ground? I'm lost.

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Dino Parenti from Los Angeles is reading Everything He Gets His Hands On December 13, 2012 - 6:22am

Well, none of that is true NOW at 5am (insert smiley icon here).

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Jack Campbell Jr. from Lawrence, KS is reading American Rust by Phillipp Meyer December 13, 2012 - 8:38am

If I am writing about something particularly disturbing, I make a point of slowing down and detailing it as much as possible. It takes a lot to disturb me. I'm not shaken very easily, but if my writing goes there, I just follow it and let it run its course.

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H.I.Marcuson from Toulouse is reading a book on spelling December 13, 2012 - 9:51am

I try. I can't. I keep chickening out of writing about stuff that really disturbs me.

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Michael J. Riser from CA, TX, Japan, back to CA is reading The Tyrant - Michael Cisco, The Devil Takes You Home - Gabino Iglesias December 13, 2012 - 10:26am

I've been told that the best stuff I write is what's least personal, so I try to avoid writing about personal things that get to me that way. Otherwise... I make no real allowance for or restriction on things that bug me or things that don't. I just write about whatever it strikes me to write about. There's nothing that's off limits, nor anything that demands I write it simply by virtue of its subject matter.

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life December 13, 2012 - 4:37pm

The stronger your feelings about something, the more impassionately you write about it. DO IT.

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines December 13, 2012 - 5:34pm

Some good advice I once received?

Write scared. 

 

If you've never experienced that sensation, you ought to. Subject, audience irrelevant. Try it. Another author I really love told me she hit send and then puked after writing a deeply personal essay. 

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life December 13, 2012 - 5:37pm

Dress up like a milkman and write in the window of a downtown department store, in other words. No, wait, that's something else entirely.

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Flybywrite from Rocky Point, Long Island is reading The Bride Comes to Yellow Sky, by Stephen Crane December 13, 2012 - 11:05pm

I've got two young and restless girl sister cats named J.J. and Lily running around my kitchen like catnipped maniacs batting a piece of paper all over the place.  It's bothering the hell out of me that I can't glue one thought on to another about the relation of the spectrum between bothersome and horrifying, to writing.  So I thought I'd start out with how my cats are really bothering, me and it's a good thing they're pretty cute little hyperactives or I'd chase them down and beat them to death with a frying pan. 

Somewhat seriously, and a little briefly (?), I think all good writing is relative to the big sky bother which is croaking.  So you take your Hallmarky writer, and then usually a Valhalla-world of some kind or another full of sensitive, kind, courageous, loving, crazily polite people constantly on the lookout for each other, is kind enough from his or her efforts to come into existence.  But this seems a hyperbolic reaction, like a sunshiny umbrella to hide from darkness under.  So the noble protagonist or ists, and his or her or their whole merry godammned group, win whatever day by the use of their stellar characteristics, and the whole sweet soup bears at best a partial relation twice removed from the real world.  Anyone from brilliant to imbecilic reading or watching a real sapfest, with the possible exception of its writer, knows its pure escapism. And the music is playing and the tears are spilling, and isn't this wonderful, that in fucking Missisippi (sp?) around three years ago something remotely similar, but with different motivations, and with much seamier sides abounding, actually did happen.

But the whole dark-side-writer too seems a reaction.  A rampaging idealist often knows the light very well, or better yet passionately, and can also be rampagingly disappointed by lightlessness, likely drives the really good darker than dark writers too.  I think of Poe and Kierkegaard who wrote their long, endlessly dark and beautifully complex sentences in and around the same time.  They were both haunted by one death after the next before they were too far through their twenties, but they lived and reacted very differently to their deathcentric focus.

So the cold-and- dark-and-essentially-alone-and-always-headed-tick-to-tock-in-the-direction-of-disaster-and-ain't-this-a-stark-and-heartless place-that-sucks-in-thousands-of-ways-and-is-anathema-24-7-to-human-health, is kind of a more realistic thing.  But I think I most love those writer's who land these great, perfectly real people in the middle of a great darkness, like Clarice Starling/Jack Crawford and Chris McNeil/Father Karras/Father Merrin in the middle of The Silence of the Lambs and The Exorcist.

Then you're so emotionally pummeled between the good, the bad and the ugly in a totally fantastic but completely real seeming world, you forgot that you're you for a while. Which is nice.

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 14, 2012 - 12:47pm

At this point I promise not to write my next War story about the new school shooting (or fictional ones), but it DOES bother me! Maybe at some point I'll write about how puzzled I continue to be about the fact that semiautomatic weapons are easily available to the public.

My last War story had to do with mass cult suicides because they DO bother me.

I tend to include in my writing things that bother me, yes.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 14, 2012 - 4:15pm

I think that Aurora movie theater shooting had a lot to do with my initial paranoia that made me write the War Round 1 story. It was unsettling, think it snuck in there without my noticing until I looked at it a couple weeks later.