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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. May 28, 2012 - 8:59am

I'm totally manly except for my beautiful vagina.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 28, 2012 - 9:04am

You trying to say I am a delicate flower? Pff. We can take it outside, RIGHT NOW! 

I am not a pansy, I am passionate and angry. There is a difference. 

@Howie, you do have a pretty pink taco

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. May 28, 2012 - 9:03am

Also, my much older cousin used to beat me up when I was a kid (not like abuse, but just the normal whack in the head or get pushed around or shot with a bb gun orwhatever) and call me a pansy whenever I would cry.  I never understood why it was an insult, because I thought he was calling me a pandsy (like a panda).  I wanted to be a panda.  That sounded awesome.

Actually, I still kinda want to be a panda.  

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 28, 2012 - 9:19am

Wait...Matt, you're a dude?"

A demonstration could be arranged? LOL, I am a dude, just not 'The Dude'

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. May 28, 2012 - 9:19am

Shit, Avery wrote the best damn short story based on that idea.  It should be anthologized and forced upon expectant mothers so that they know they aren't alone.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters May 28, 2012 - 9:23am

Yeah. 

I have many serious thoughts on postpartum depression and will share them privately with anyone who is interested.  I generally tell every pregnant woman I know these things.  People need to be aware.

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. May 28, 2012 - 9:29am

I think you should write more about it.  Your honesty in that situation is one of the most impressive things I've read.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter May 28, 2012 - 9:35am

PPD freaks me out.  I think I have a chance of getting it.  Kids scare me but I do want them, eventually.  My anxiety is what freaks me out the most, particularly because most of the kids I see are misbehaving in the store I work in.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 28, 2012 - 9:37am

I know literally nothing about postpartum. Perhaps I should read this story. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters May 28, 2012 - 9:46am

Well, the story is fictionalized to an extent.  But not very much.

PPD is scary and I will probably write more about it one day.  I think it matters that people understand this.  And there is support and help for people.  Don't isolate yourselves or feel ashamed. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 28, 2012 - 9:58am

I have just read up on it. It seems to be a myriad of factors correlating at once. Sort of like a biological perfect storm. Risk factors seem to include everything from smoking to alcohol use. According to what I am seeing it is something to do with hormonal imbalances post natal which only increase due to Evolutionary psychological issues since primate babies need extensive care (Fathers involvement, resource scarcity, inadequate social support ect) and only intensify as these saftey nets are removed or non-existent. This only gets worse with other environmental factors, money, work stress, daily life, irregular sleep patterns. 

I honestly don't know how you ladies cope. I would not be able to battle something that debilitating and care for an infant at the same time. In a way, I suppose you have no choice and just push through it for the good of your children. Sometimes, I suspect women are far stronger than men in many respects, not all, but many. 

In short, this looks like hell for some mothers and seems to spiral out of control. I really have to read this story now. What's it called?

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks May 28, 2012 - 10:03am

Two of my relatives had PPD and it's pretty much the only thing that scares me about having kids. One of them admitted to lying about it so she wouldn't look like a terrible parent, but the other was so scared and sad about how she felt and watching her go through it was horrible.

I can't imagine dealing with that. I have clinical depression and I'm worried that it'll happen to me. The women who can deal with that are seriously the strongest I've ever met.

Lying about it is bullshit, though, and no one should ever cheapen a disease to make it look like they're not a shitty parent.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters May 28, 2012 - 10:19am

"Lying about it is bullshit, though,"

Well.  You are not mentally fit exactly.  In you mind it is weakness and people will judge you.  And it already feels like so much that the idea of one more judgement can bemore then some people can take. 

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks May 28, 2012 - 10:25am

I definitely didn't mean that the way you took it. Lying about not having it is stupid -- as in no one should claim to have it to make themselves feel better about their shitty parenting. Like my aunt. She admitted to lying and saying she had it with her first kid after her second kid was born and she actually did have PPD.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters May 28, 2012 - 10:27am

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Yeah, I read that wrong.  Okay, yes. 

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks May 28, 2012 - 10:32am

It would have been 100% justified if you had called me an ignorant ass and completely went off on me when it sounded that way. I'm surprised you didn't. I probably would have, had someone said it to me, and I don't have personal experience with it.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters May 28, 2012 - 10:37am

I'm really very level-headed and rational.  Also, there is always the chance I misunderstood (as in above).

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life May 28, 2012 - 8:24pm

While I'm sure you're all super busy refereeing an internet squabble between a couple of children, maybe someone could post a story in the workshop. It's fucking boring with no new stories. I'm going to post one tonight, but of course that doesn't give me anything to review. 

Surely some of you must have some old stuff I can rip apart for a while. C'mon, be a pal!

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 29, 2012 - 2:00am

Update! Jeff if you haven't taken a look at these, they could use reviews!

 

Mount Carroll Reworked

By: ergoego
In: Literary, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
1 new
In the previous chapter Stan discovers an electricity between him and Holly, but Holly's best friend Chloe creates a dilemma for Stan. This chapter finds Stan dealing with his dilemma. 3,222 words.

 

THE FOUNTAINEERS

By: Jason George Osmond
In: Adventure, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
2 new
There is an island where only the young can go. It is said that the secret to immortality resides there.This is an bloody, lawless tale of the controversial meanings of life and death.

 

Great White Bay

By: marv66
In: Adventure, Short Story 2 reviews
A tribal mans wife begins to go into labor in their canoe in the middle of the bay. He hauls her back to the shore where something more sinister than the shark that just bumped him awaits

 

Savanna-I-L

By: ergoego
In: Literary, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
1 new
In the previous chapter a Jesuit had counseled Stan to go find a good Catholic girl, get married and dedicate his 1st born son to be a priest. Stan visits his aunt in Savanna & meets Holly at church.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated May 29, 2012 - 4:19am

@Jeff - A lot of us horde points like we can trade them in to avoid death. Myself included. 

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life May 29, 2012 - 11:45am

@Dwayne - Oh, I see. It's important to avoid death. 

My issue is that everything in the workshop that I haven't reviewed yet is because it's too old (maybe they have enough to review/have moved on etc), too long combined with ephemeral presence (someone rolls in, drops 30/60k, and I don't see them reviewing other people's work? Forget it. I look into my crystal ball, and I don't foresee reciprocity, so I skip it), or, I open it up, start reading, and find it so awful I can't give it a decent review.

It's in everyone's best interest to keep the workshop stocked up with fresh meat, so...  

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated May 29, 2012 - 12:34pm

@Jeff - Logic and human action are seldom related.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts May 30, 2012 - 5:00am

Surely some of you must have some old stuff I can rip apart for a while. C'mon, be a pal!

 

Looks like everything has a healthy amount of reviews and it's slow in there so I'll throw something old up there this morning, if some you guys do the same and try to rework an old story. I don't want to be left out there all alone to confront how shitty my writing was however long ago.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner May 31, 2012 - 4:26am

Update! Not much there. This is the same as yesterday

 

THE FOUNTAINEERS

By: Jason George Osmond
In: Adventure, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
2 new
There is an island where only the young can go. It is said that the secret to immortality resides there.This is an bloody, lawless tale of the controversial meanings of life and death.

 

Great White Bay

By: marv66
In: Adventure, Short Story 2 reviews
A tribal mans wife begins to go into labor in their canoe in the middle of the bay. He hauls her back to the shore where something more sinister than the shark that just bumped him awaits

 

Savanna-I-L

By: ergoego
In: Literary, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
1 new
In the previous chapter a Jesuit had counseled Stan to go find a good Catholic girl, get married and dedicate his 1st born son to be a priest. Stan visits his aunt in Savanna & meets Holly at church.

 

 

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 3, 2012 - 11:36pm

I'm so behind on this...I was raised as a traditional Viet girl, and thus, I don't drink and I don't smoke. Now, both things are gross to me. No matter how much I try to like alcohol, it's like liking Henry Rollins. Unfortunately, I no longer have smoker friends.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 3, 2012 - 11:46pm

I have mixed feeling about him sometimes, but I was just shocked you didn't know of him. Same way I'd be shocked if someone didn't know of Kelly Clarkson or Chuck Palahniuk (if they come here that is).

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life June 4, 2012 - 12:08am

Let me just say, I fucking love Kelly Clarkson. I drum along to her stuff many nights. But really, Lobster, there is no excuse for not knowing who Henry Rollins is. 

In the workshop: A bunch of stuff by a bunch of people. You shold go read/rate it, otherwise you're wasting your 9 bucks a month.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 4, 2012 - 4:29am

I love smoking. Doing it now. 

 

Update. 

 

ROHIBITION

By: Jeff
In: Sci-fi, Short Story 1 reviews
2 new
In the not too distant future, signs of genuine artificial intelligence have begun to emerge. A private investgator wades into an unregulated and wild post-digital frontier.

 

THE FOUNTAINEERS

By: Jason
In: Adventure, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
1 new
There is an island where only the young can go. It is said that the secret to immortality resides there.This is an bloody, lawless tale of the controversial meanings of life and death.

 

Great White Bay

By: marv66
In: Adventure, Short Story 2 reviews
A tribal mans wife begins to go into labor in their canoe in the middle of the bay. He hauls her back to the shore where something more sinister than the shark that just bumped him awaits

 

Savanna-I-L

By: ergoego
In: Literary, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
In the previous chapter a Jesuit had counseled Stan to go find a good Catholic girl, get married and dedicate his 1st born son to be a priest. Stan visits his aunt in Savanna & meets Holly at church.

 

 

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 4, 2012 - 8:30am

Let me just say, I fucking love Kelly Clarkson. I drum along to her stuff many nights. But really, Lobster, there is no excuse for not knowing who Henry Rollins is.

I have what I call excellent selective memory. I know who Henry Rollins is, but that's all. I've Googled him on several occasions.

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JEFFREY GRANT BARR from Central OR is reading Nothing but fucking Shakespeare, for the rest of my life June 4, 2012 - 9:07am

You mean you don't just remember everything? Huh, that must be weird.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 4, 2012 - 9:26am

Oh I get it now. Barr is like a less funny version of our resident talking dog.

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Pretty Spry for... from I'd prefer it if you didn't know. So would you, only you don't know it. is reading whatever he makes time for this week June 4, 2012 - 11:12am

Please, for the love of God, review my submission "Sympathy for Mr. Claus."

Pwetty pwease? Chewwy on top?

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 4, 2012 - 11:32am

I don't remember everything, but I do remember a lot more then most people and that is weird. "Do I bring up that TV show we watched 2 years ago that was just like this moment? Will anyone remember what I'm talking about. Am I just standing here looking odd?" No good choice in those moments.

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Bill Tucker from Austin, Texas is reading Grimm's Fairy Tales (1st Edition) June 4, 2012 - 12:12pm

@Brett:  I'd be happy to give your piece a review but it's simply too long.  If you would be OK with me LBL'ing half of it and reading the other half, I'd be happy to give it a look.

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Pretty Spry for... from I'd prefer it if you didn't know. So would you, only you don't know it. is reading whatever he makes time for this week June 4, 2012 - 12:14pm

Sure thing, Bill. Have at it.

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 5, 2012 - 12:40am

You mean you don't just remember everything? Huh, that must be weird.

I know my mom's told me about her surgery, but I don't remember why she's going. Even if she's told me a million times...I wouldn't remember.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 3:59am

Update!

The Ceramic Man (5,900 words)

By: mabwythe
In: Horror, Short Story 0 reviews
Jennifer loved the ceramic man with the bicycle the moment she saw him in the antique store. He looked adventurous to her. Once Mom brought him home, however, he showed a darker side. A hungry side.

 

Sympathy for Mr. Claus [10,200 words]

By: Bret Gammons
In: Short Story, Surprise Me 0 reviews
He's makin a list. He's checkin it twice. He's gonna find out... He's Santa Claus, loose-cannon saint on the edge who doesn't play by the rules. The only gift he's givin: revenge.

 

No One Knows (15596 Words)

By: earthsnake9
In: Realism, Short Story 0 reviews
This story is a play about my life, a short snippet of it at least, in which I thought I was going insane. This is the most vulnerable piece of writing because it is all true.

 

ROHIBITION

By: Jeff
In: Sci-fi, Short Story 2 reviews
4 new
In the not too distant future, signs of genuine artificial intelligence have begun to emerge. A private investigator wades into an unregulated and wild post-digital frontier.

 

E FOUNTAINEERS

By: Jason
In: Adventure, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
1 new
There is an island where only the young can go. It is said that the secret to immortality resides there.This is an bloody, lawless tale of the controversial meanings of life and death.

 

Great White Bay

By: marv66
In: Adventure, Short Story 2 reviews
A tribal mans wife begins to go into labor in their canoe in the middle of the bay. He hauls her back to the shore where something more sinister than the shark that just bumped him awaits

 

Savanna-I-L

By: ergoego
In: Literary, Novel Excerpt 2 reviews
In the previous chapter a Jesuit had counseled Stan to go find a good Catholic girl, get married and dedicate his 1st born son to be a priest. Stan visits his aunt in Savanna & meets Holly at church.

 

 

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 5, 2012 - 5:42am

How funny would it be if a famous author got on here under a fake name and got horrible reviews?

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 5:44am

I have thought about posting obscure stuff from prominent authors to see what reviews they got. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 5, 2012 - 5:47am

Really?  You thought about wasting people's time?  Awesome.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 5:48am

People's time and my points. Just to see what kind of reviews the submission would get. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 5, 2012 - 5:50am

I like it when people set up traps to try and trick people.  It's the best.  And in no way a dick thing to do. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 5:54am

Geez- you seriously are in a shitty mood. Go to Starbucks or something. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 5, 2012 - 6:44am

OR

Maybe I just find that offensive. 

Nah - must be that I'm in a bad mood.  No one could ever not like something otherwise. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 6:47am

No, I think it is great. Me=win

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 5, 2012 - 6:58am

I agree with Mattack here:  Avery, you are in a shitty mood.  Why did you not sleep last night?  Dare I ask?

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 5, 2012 - 6:59am

Are you serious?  You don't see that as trying to trick or otherwise test people so that you can go back later and either try and throw it up in their face, or at the very least tell yourself you don't have to listen to their reviews because they didn't like whomever you put up?  Like a convenient little way to make yourself feel better over a bad review.  Utter bullshit.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 5, 2012 - 7:04am

I see it as a way for me, the reviewer, to get points reading some stuff where I won't have to spend half my time ignoring my internal need to correct grammar.  That would be awesome!

Matt, if I ever find out you do that and I do not get a full three points, I will find some way to make everyone on here think you are short and ugly.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 5, 2012 - 7:06am

I'M NOT IN A SHITTY MOOD!

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 5, 2012 - 7:14am

Utah I would find a way to give people 10 points if I did that. It is just an experiment on my end.