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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 5:02am

shitty 80s metal

No such thing exists. 1985 was the best year in metal history, second being 1989. I have researched this in as many subgenres known to man. The only genuinely shitty 80s metal may be Stryper, and even they had some good songs. Conversely the summers of 1980-1981 were the best years in punk rock and an 8-month period around the summer of 1993 was the best period in rap music. These are unequivocal facts.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest December 19, 2012 - 5:03am

I've had countless people make their cases about Kanye, and I still hate him. He is talented, I'll admit that, and I even like a few of his songs. It's him, as a person, that I hate. Put the ego down Kanye. You aren't that important. Plus, Jay, Nas, Meth, Eminem, Pac and Biggie when they were alive, would crush Kanye in a battle. And please, don't mention Lil Wayne... 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 5:36am

Ren, you can't be serious! Glam metal was a plague that I was glad grunge killed. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 5:39am

1993 was the best period in rap music."

 

This  I would agree with. It said something then and wasn't all materialism and misogyny and ignorance. Digable Plants for one. Tribe Called Quest. The list goes on. 

 

I really feel like shit. 

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest December 19, 2012 - 5:41am

1996 was the year rap died...

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 5:42am

"Battling" isn't really much to fuss about in rap as a whole. Lyrically Lil Wayne is pretty amazing, considering he has to make two or three really fucking good metaphors/similes to own a song and then look like a goddamn gremlin from the film Gremlins the rest of the time. Eminem is also probably one of the most advanced lyrically, though I can't stand him. Kanye, lyrically, is derivative and just plain bad. As a producer he's astounding. If you don't like the purely inane ghetto shit, which I personally appreciate, the best rapper overall right now is Kendrick Lamar. He's a 90's throwback aesthetically, except his style is completely fresh.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 5:46am

1993"

 

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest December 19, 2012 - 5:52am

I disagree about Lil Wayne. Listen to his lyrics. Sure, they're good, but alot of them aren't his. He's stolen more lyrics off Jay than anyone else. Plus, he repeats himself constantly. As for battling. It's the foundation upon what rap has become. Battling is one of the most important aspects of rap. Eminem wouldn't have a career if his battle rapping isn't so amazing.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 6:01am

The 80's wasn't just glam metal, there was traditional heavy metal, the beginnings of doom metal, speed metal which led to thrash metal and death metal and thrash-punk and grindcore, black metal with bands like Celtic Frost and Venom and Mercyful Fate, NWOBHM. If you recognize a lot of metal bands, check out what albums were put out in 1985 and 1989. I might be talking out of my ass, but it is an informed talking-out-of-ass opinion.

Summer of 1993 in Rap had that one A Tribe Called Quest, Wu-Tang, Return of the Boom-bap, Masta Ace, Enta da Stage, Doggystyle, Illmatic, Ready to Die, Digable Planets etc. Much more. All within a span of 6 months or so.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 6:12am

The polls for The Pit should be up soon. Edit: Here's some *shitty* German thrash to honor it. 

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest December 19, 2012 - 6:12am

Illmatic is one of the best hip-hop albums ever written. You can't deny NWA and Public Enemy. They completely changed the game. 

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. December 19, 2012 - 6:27am

We need some matches to read, if only to stop all the talk of terrible music. Some of you people should be ashamed. Ha!

C'mon Jessica? Why you still in bed for?

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Wonder Woman from RI is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 6:33am

Extreme remains one of my all-time favorite bands (with the lamest name). But I'm a guitar nerd. Just a shame most people only know them for that one song. They were the Queen of the '90s. 

I agree with your Queen comment (and the fact that more than words was overplayed). I remember having the Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure soundtrack and loved "Do You Want to Play?" quite a bit. The tour I saw them on was for the Three Sides to Every Story album. And actually, there's a great Christmas song by them from one of the Very Special Christmas albums that ends in a very Queen-esque way. Gives me chills every time I listen to it! 

As for stories that would bore non-fans to death, I saw Cheap Trick in Providence and Gary Cherone came out on stage to help them sing Surrender. Apparently he was in town doing Jesus Christ Superstar and popped in for a cameo. It was pretty cool.

 

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 6:44am

I watched my brother's roommate turn down Cheap Trick when they asked him to drum for them after a gig. Hilarious. An old buddy also turned down the offer to be in New Found Glory when they were getting off the ground, said it was the biggest regret of his musical career.

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines December 19, 2012 - 6:52am

@Matt Attack 

Despite the shitty 80s metal in it and the narrators shitty Canadian accent.

Ouch. I will leave your penis size out of this if you can let my accent go, ok? ; ) 

 

And thank you, Martin.

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. December 19, 2012 - 6:53am

I love canadian accents.  I think they sound like fun people just because of the accent.  

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 7:00am

Ouch. I will leave your penis size out of this if you can let my accent go, ok? ; )

Bwhaha, I could not stop laughing at that. You = win. I will say, that accent ruined the X-Files for me. I lived in Canada and it still ruined it!

 

Well, the Frenchy French part, so not the same, but still

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 7:01am

I'm no Canadian but I'm pretty sure I have an exactly average sized penis, performance notwithstanding.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 19, 2012 - 7:01am

I'm working on the polls. 

You can't deny NWA and Public Enemy.

Sure I can.  I mean, Peter denied Jesus three times.  And he was the son of God. 

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. December 19, 2012 - 7:02am

Alleged son of god.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 7:03am

Pete, son of god? "Sorry, Jesus. It's not you, it's me." "Oh, yeah, Jesus, about that. Yeah, I'm just coming out of this really intense relationship. How about we be friends?" I don't know what he said the third time.

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Sound from Azusa, CA is reading Greener Pastures by Michael Wehunt December 19, 2012 - 7:03am

I'm a grunge baby. Early 90s. Pearl Jam is favorite. Just saw Soundgarden @ three forum where I meet dave grohl by the stage. First time I was ever starstruck.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 7:04am

Yay! The polls are up!

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines December 19, 2012 - 7:05am

LitReactor, connecting NWA and Public Enemy with Christianity since 2011. 

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. December 19, 2012 - 7:22am

Awesome - polls are going up now. Good times.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 19, 2012 - 7:34am

DEAR PEOPLE:

All polls are up - only 15.  Which reminds me...

CONGRATULATIONS MESS_JESS - YOU WIN BY DEFAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'll post your story in a minute so people can see it.

PLEASE check the polls and download your story to make sure everything looks good.  If I messed up, please PM me and let me know.  It happens.

THANKS!

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines December 19, 2012 - 8:06am

Congrats, Jess! You fought hard for that. Actually I know what sort of chaos your life is right now and what it took to even show up this week, so you deserve it. Muah! 

Also, Avery, my story looks amazing. lol. 

 

Have a good day, people! Read hard, vote harder. 

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 19, 2012 - 8:10am

My friend went to a bank in the Boston metro about 10 years ago to make a simple deposit. Gary Cherone of Extreme was in the lobby with some hack band playing. 

Years ago, my aforementioned music teacher, friends with Cherone, was telling me how he recently saw him playing in a Who tribute act and how awesome it was. He said this with a straight face. 

Music is a rough business.

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Gordon Highland from Kansas City is reading Secondhand Souls by Christopher Moore December 19, 2012 - 8:21am

Bettencourt was a pretty bad-ass guitarist

And now he's got the best view in showbiz: backing up Rihanna. haha

So, my stories about the last time I saw Extreme. One, we were hanging on their bus, and the singer of my own band—piss drunk—drapes his arm around Gary Cherone (this is post-Van Halen, mind)—and slurs: "I don't care if no one knows who the hell you are, you're one of my biggest inspirations!" Awk-ward! … Two, earlier that afternoon I got/had to play for Nuno. Two of my closest friends own a huge music store, and he aggreed to do a rare appearance. The place is wall-to-wall with fans lined up, but no one's shopping, it's too quiet. And dude's running late. So they nudged me to stoke things, plugged me into his new prototype amp and one of his guitars. I'm being all shy about it at first (people hate wankers), but worked up a pretty good lather by the time Nuno walks in the door. Of course I clam up immediately, but he's all "Nah, nah, man, keep it going!" I also hadn't realized the amp was set up right in front of what would be his autograph station. I just kept telling myself Don't play any Extreme licks, Don't play any Extreme licks, Don't play any Extreme licks. haha Because I of course grew up learning that shit note-for-note. Can't remember the last time I was that nervous, and I got to play a few songs with George Lynch (Dokken) the year before that.

And kward, any "first-time sentence" is always a compliment from me, in appreciation of its utter randomness.

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SConley from Texas is reading Coin Locker Babies December 19, 2012 - 8:24am

I used to go to tons of hardcore shows back in the day. My friends practically ran the scene here in Houston. The biggest bands i saw were Hoods and Ramallah. My friend's band opened for Ramallah, which was very cool because we loved that band back then. And i partied with the guys from Hoods. The afterparties from some of those shows were epic. I haven't been to a hardcore show in years though.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 19, 2012 - 8:38am

Nobody ever listens to the same music I do. :(

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TomMartinArt from Amherst, MA December 19, 2012 - 8:40am

It's overrated. I have people that listen to the same music I do, but I wind up disagreeing with them so often about other bands or why what we share is great that I'm just happier not worrying about it.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 19, 2012 - 8:44am

Nobody ever listens to the same music I do. :( 

Me neither.  But mostly because I love terrible music. 

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres December 19, 2012 - 8:47am

@Gordon - I ran into/met George Lynch at a Godfather's Pizza in Clinton, IA when I went back there for my grandpa's funeral.  The Lynch Mob was playing the venue next door (the Pig Pen) and he and the roadies were getting a slice.  I don't have anything to say to "famous" people, but for some reason I thought it was appropriate to let him know that my favorite Nightmare on Elm Street movie was part 3, The Dream Warriors.  While there is a link between the two, I still walked away thinking there must have been thousands of better things to say.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 8:48am

Nobody ever listens to the same music I do. :("

Fuck it. Its slowly getting to that point. I listen to subgenres that only have 4 bands in them. I say that makes you original and un-boring. Good on ya.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 19, 2012 - 9:04am

What the shit?!

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 19, 2012 - 9:05am

Something along the lines of...

The problem with having such awesome taste in music is that nobody knows any of the artists I talk about. Whenenver I talk about how great the Wild Beasts are, people just sort of stand there. It makes for a lonely existence.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 9:06am

Who is deleting posts and why ? That's like two or three gone.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 19, 2012 - 9:07am

Yeah, now yours is gone. The forum is disappearing!

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 19, 2012 - 9:08am

Everyone calm down!

you look like crazy people.

 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner December 19, 2012 - 9:08am

Either that, or we have gone totally fucking insane at the same time. Should be an interesting afternoon

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SConley from Texas is reading Coin Locker Babies December 19, 2012 - 9:08am

Nobody listens to my music. Well, some people do. I like this band Fight Like Apes and i've never met anyone who's heard of them. They can't even tour the United States because they can't afford the flight, they're so obscure. I also like Sleigh Bells, The Sounds, Band of Horses, Grimes, Chappo, Tiny Victories, Elite Gymnastics, a bunch of stuff nobody cares about.

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres December 19, 2012 - 9:14am

@ConMan, I'm in the same boat.  I could name a whole list of chicago area punk bands, and the odds are high no one here knows them. But if you were out here, most people would know them.  It makes sense, seeing as most of us are all meeting here from various places around the united states, some people from outside the states.  I don't know, it's kind of refreshing to hear about different bands rather than talk about the same ones over and over.  Also kind of nice to be able to show people new music too.

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Wonder Woman from RI is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 9:25am

I just listen to all sorts of stuff, so usually I end up agreeing with someone about something somewhere along the line. 

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dufrescm from Wisconsin is reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep December 19, 2012 - 9:50am

Not to interrupt all this music talk, but I'm going to. ;)

 

Rough draft done!  Now to cut 30 words...

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sean of the dead from Madisonville, KY is reading Peckerwood, by Jed Ayres December 19, 2012 - 9:52am

What do you think this is?  A writing website?

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Wonder Woman from RI is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 19, 2012 - 9:54am

Really enjoying the Flash stories so far. Wish I had more time to continue reading, but I have to jet soon. The prompts are pretty wild and it's very cool to see what people are inspired to write. 

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Matt from New Zealand is reading This is how you lose her by Junot Diaz December 19, 2012 - 10:04am

Holy shit! I'm blown away by some of these flash stories. I've only read a couple so far, but the quality is insanely high. And these were knocked out in four days! Nice work everyone. The Pit is looking intense.

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TomMartinArt from Amherst, MA December 19, 2012 - 10:11am

I'm skeered of my opponent. 

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like December 19, 2012 - 1:23pm

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