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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 5:51pm

Its on automatic. WOnder  if the new issue of a visa card which is exactly the same but with a new expire date caused this? That sucks . In this day visa should figure out how to make that flow. Damn and fuck. I hate stuff like this. I have enough to do. 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 5:52pm

I bet that's it, Cove. I had a similar thing happen not that long ago. I had a bunch of shit go off payment.

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:03pm

My account looks okay. I gues i will have to contact Kirk somehow. But even if i wren't a paid member, shouldn't i be able to see the posts in WAR? 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 6:09pm

Weird.

But all the WAR matchups are private which means only members can view them.

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Meredith_103 November 20, 2012 - 6:10pm

@Covewriter--my account expired right at the start of WAR and I couldn't see any threads. If you are on month to month, it auto renews. But I had paid for six months and when that runs out, you have to renew manually.

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:11pm

I am on autorenw. And it appears i still have an account. I jsut sent a note but i dont' see where to go update my credit card if that is the problem. 

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:21pm

It's not easy to find whre to change your credit card expire date if that is indeed the problem. Not in my profile or anyting. Sucks. Visa needs to figure out how to make this smoother. Good paying customers have to stop adn rechange everythign cause of the renew. That is stupid.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 6:22pm

I'm of no help, I do the 6 month thing so I have to manually renew my card each time.

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Jonathan Riley from Memphis, Tennessee is reading Flashover by Gordon Highland November 20, 2012 - 6:23pm

@Stark I'm on 6 months. I was wondering does LitReactor send a message when it is time to renew because I'm not sure where to look to track it myself. And are there penalties if it expires and you renew the next day?

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 6:24pm

Yeah, they send a message. I let mine slip because I was up at my mom's with limited internet and there was no issue/charge renewing.

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Jonathan Riley from Memphis, Tennessee is reading Flashover by Gordon Highland November 20, 2012 - 6:27pm

Thanks

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:28pm

I didn't get a message. I can't see where to update my credit card. Im on recurring. This kind of sucks. What the fuck is wrong? 

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Hector Acosta from Dallas is reading Fletch November 20, 2012 - 6:29pm

I been a bit busy getting ready(and passing, wooo) my teaching certification test, so I've just started with the voting. Nice to see the voting numbers seem to be holding to the first weeks.

 

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Jonathan Riley from Memphis, Tennessee is reading Flashover by Gordon Highland November 20, 2012 - 6:29pm

Cover, did you try logging out and logging back in. One time my stuff was all jacked up and I logged out and back in and everything was corrected.

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:30pm

Well i think im on recurring, maybe i did six months, . but at any rate i got no message and still seem to have an accoutn and dont' see how to sign back in if i don't have a paid account. I posted Avery for help.

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Meredith_103 November 20, 2012 - 6:31pm

If you use the Contact Litreactor link, Kirk is very speedy with his replies. 

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 6:44pm

Yep I did that.  I NEED MY WAR CRACK KIRK HURRY

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters November 20, 2012 - 6:53pm

Cove - chill.  If there is an issue it'll be resolved within a day, I'm sure.  Nothing important is going to happen in that time.  Let's just relax. 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 7:07pm

The log in is the same whether you are a paid member or not.

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 7:18pm

Whew I'm good now. Sorry I get spastic over stuff like that. Kirk was great, and thanks Avery, I just thought I was set to recurring for life. Definately chilling. 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry November 20, 2012 - 7:27pm

I think this is the first time I've seen Cove use profanity. 

@Everybody:  I fully agree that it's frustrating to not be able to talk about stories.  I want to talk about all mine as soon as I'm finished with them.  To anybody.  To people at Walmart.  Especially to you guys.  The waiting period does kinda suck.  But it's almost over.  Couple more days and we'll post scores and update the bracket and then we can all chat about all the cool shit that happened in the last couple weeks.  Or we can lament.  One way or the other, I look forward to that. 

Because the bottom line is that writing should be fun.  If it's not, stick to your day job.  If you have to do something shitty and not fun, do the one you get paid the most for.  I'm here at WAR because I think competition is fun, because I think writing stories is fun, and because I think e-hanging out with (most of) you is fun.  Not preaching here; just reminding.  I'm here for the juice, and you probably are too. 

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 7:41pm

Holy fucking shit Utah you said it!  People are only frustrated, in my humble opinion, because they love this site and the competition. Everybody is raring to go. That's good. Sorry I spazzed about account gone missing. 

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies November 20, 2012 - 7:50pm

first, it takes a lot of courage to enter this contest. i've been writng for five years and i got nervous last WAR and I still get butterflies during this WAR. it's normal. but to take on this challenge at all, kudos. you should be proud.

second, i think war is a great way to test your mettle. are you really into it, or just playing around? will you respond to a loss by giving up or by learning what you did wrong and try to do better? how will you handle the win, will it inspire you to write more, to get better, will it make you feel like you can actually write? i hope so.

everybody in here will lose a match, most two. only ONE will go undefeated. so chew on that for awhile. the village will vote and YOU WILL LOSE. what you do with that, how you respond? that will say a lot about who you are and what writing means to you. thicken up that skin.

and have fun, as Utah said. we're not dying here, not curing cancer.

writing is my lifelong dream. no shit. no jokes. i mean it. and there isn't a day that goes by that i don't feel like a total failure. but the pleasure of a well written story, the responses from people, the reactions i get, sheer bliss. it feeds my soul.

"What does not kill me makes me stronger."—Nietzsche

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 7:58pm

Your last paragraph before the Nietsche quote, that is my sentiment, although I wish I had the courage to do it years ago. ( Funny, iPad changed the word courage to outrage before my manual correct. Hum. )

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:10pm

^ what Utah and RIchard said

 

It does take a lot of balls to submit to a competition like this. You sub to the workshop, you expect helpful eyes. Here there is judgement and competition. It will be fierce at times.

Nobody should be discouraged from battling on because they lost in the first round though. Many of the losing stories are still going to be good, there have been duels where it has almost taken a coin toss to split the stories. In those cases both authors should be damn well proud of themselves. the close fought ones are the most fun.

And think - even if you lose by a wider margin, say 20 votes to your opponents 30, then it's nothing to be ashamed of. That was still 40% of the 'market' picking yours out as the better work. If you imagine this applied to a wider audience, it still bodes well. If 40% of the editors you ever submit to like your stuff, you are on great form. If 40% of the people that read a story of yours decide to check out some more of your work - you will have a fanbase building in no time.

If you got a whooping, well then, take it on the chin, grow, and learn from it. Resolve to fight a little harder in the next round. You are in the right place to be growing as a writer - read the essays here and play in the workshop and I promise you that you'll be fighting harder in the future.

Nobody that loses in this round better drop out!! Warning ya, Avery is a menace and she will come and find you. If you lose in this round you get to have a go at something different, a quick and dirty flash round. New skill will be tested.

We are ALL here to learn and to improve.

^ and maybe I say all that knowing that I lost my duel. Or maybe I won. Who knows?

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:12pm

Oh, and I finally finished reading all the duels. So many pats on the back. You are all fucking awesome.

This is a WAR PARTY!!! GWARRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:14pm

The war party was planned. You see, today is Richard Thomas' birthday. In lieu of cake, this time, the gift is that of slaying.

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Covewriter from Nashville, Tennessee is reading & Sons November 20, 2012 - 8:23pm

HBD2U Richard! 

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Ben Freeman from Charlottesville, Virginia is reading everything I can November 20, 2012 - 8:29pm

Also something to think about is that you're story is getting read by 40-50 people.  For someone like me who's never been published or anything, that's the biggest audience I've ever had for something I've written. So win or lose, you get an honest audience to read your stuff. Just cause you lost doesn't mean your story wasn't good either.  In at least a quarter of the matchups I sat there after reading going, "well fuck, this is hard." Some stories I didn't vote for I liked better than ones I did vote for in other matchups, matchups matter a lot it seems.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 8:42pm

Its not Richard's birthday yet in the US, Martin!

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:44pm

Bleh. This again. Learn to tell the bloody time ;-)

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:46pm

^ see

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. November 20, 2012 - 8:47pm

Or maybe I am from the future.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 8:57pm

But Richard is in the US. CST if I am correct. It's still a couple hours yet.

Unless he was born in the UK, and therefore ineligible to be President. I demand to see Richard's longform birth certificate! 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry November 20, 2012 - 9:15pm

And something else for all those losers out there (or in here, more appropriately).  I'm going to out American Typo now.  AT (or Bill Johnson, as appears on his byline), is one of LR's up and coming horror writers.  Getting published left and right lately.  I can't log onto facebook without seeing another thread about some new thing AT's gotten published somewhere.  Talented man and a great American.

Last WAR, Bill lost in the first round.  And he's since gone on to publish the story that lost him that round.

So yeah, losing sucks.  But even when you lose in this tournament you can still use that work to create opportunities for yourself.  So don't take it too hard, just clean up your stories and get them off to market because in the end, that's why we're all here.

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines November 20, 2012 - 9:28pm

I want to lose. 

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies November 20, 2012 - 9:29pm

if i had the time i'd seriously publish an anthology from the WAR stories. it'd be fantastic. i know some of us have even chatted about that. one thing i didn't say before is that the writers here at LR? they are ALL good. i found that out in the first WAR. SO many people i didn't know, or didn't know very well, just blew me away. i'd say MOST of the stories in this WAR2 have been at LEAST good, then many great ones, and a few really fucking amazing stories. all crafted in one week. even those getting only a few votes, hey, somebody liked it! overall this is a really talented group. period.

and yeah, my bday is 11/21. like i care anymore. i'm old. and bitter. blech.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 9:29pm

His byline is actually W.P. Johnson ;)

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch November 20, 2012 - 9:54pm

How lame am I, then, for not even submitting yet the story that beat Americantypo?? Well in the past year I've been very slow in going back to my stories to revise them and send them out. Had too much on my hands. This winter though, sending tons of stuff out! I hope.

Anyway. Do you mean the "losers' bracket" is a constest separate from the winners' bracket? So those who lose don't go back into the main competition, but have one of their own? (I'm also very slow at understanding stuff). If you say the winner of WAR will be the one who never lost, that means the losers never catch up to the main competition? It's the WINNER and the winner, of WAR and war?

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig November 20, 2012 - 10:03pm

No, the "loser's bracket" is where the loser of each round goes to fight again--the winner of the second bracket goes up against the winner of the main bracket. If you end up in the second bracket you can still take it all in the end.

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Cures and Remedies from Canada is reading Transubstantiate - Richard Thomas November 20, 2012 - 10:13pm

In response to wickedvoodoo, richard and utah's conversation a little earlier tonight,

I agree with you guys. For me personally, even deciding to take part in WAR was a huge leap forward in my writing career. I rarely show my work to anyone. Maybe I'm afraid it'll be ridiculed. That's why I want to improve and why I came here.

I haven't even submitted anything to the workshop yet, having just committed to a membership when WAR began. But I'm already thankful for the push WAR's given me to devote more time and more focus to my writing. And, I'm also thrilled at the kind of reception my story has gotten so far (though I won't say more than that, and that doesn't really give anything away.. right?)

All in all, just wanna say thank you to everyone for putting together this tournament. I know what writing can mean to someone and you should consider yourselves heroes for giving people a chance to shine.

So thanks again.

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz November 20, 2012 - 10:50pm

I've been searching for the Hidden Immunity Idol all over this site. I may or may not have found it. My dog is in my alliance. Neither of us are into cookies.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts November 20, 2012 - 10:54pm

Too bad I got individual immunity. Blindside, bro. See you on the jury.

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz November 20, 2012 - 10:55pm

Meh, whatever. The jury is where people get cleaned up and shorn and start extra marital affairs. Life is all about the silver lining.

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voodoo_em from England is reading All the books by Ira Levin November 21, 2012 - 2:57am

Happy Birthday Richard

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines November 21, 2012 - 5:16am

@Cures and Remedies, I'm in a similar boat, ma frere. I can't wait to know which story was yours!

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry November 21, 2012 - 6:14am

You and your French.  You said you were scratching your tete the other day and I swear I thought you were just being vulgar, but making it cute by hiding it in Frenchness.

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. November 21, 2012 - 7:28am

I like this round of stories better.  That doesn't mean that I think the best stories came from either round, but that some of these stories feel 'funner' to read.  I especially like the one about [message redacted].  Who the fuck thinks of that?  Brilliant.

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H.I.Marcuson from Toulouse is reading a book on spelling November 21, 2012 - 8:04am

I've been writing for only a year and, living in a non-anglophone country it's been amazing to have my stuff read by other people - motivational.  As to WAR, well I've never writtten to any sort of deadline and being given a week to produce something has been a real learning experience. Gawd! the burning shame I feel looking at what I submitted - completely unfinished, jarring work. Why? Because I didn't manage my time at all, didn't know how to. I have learned since. a bit.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank UTAH and Avery, I dont know how much of this site was created by them, but they're clearly the most responisble for maintaining the forum's.

Now for the compliants -first @[message redacted] and shove it up your [message redacted]. And as for [message redacted] you and your infantile habit of [message redacted again] well... it's just unnecessary and worse, unproductive.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Pint in hand - I salut you all. ;)

 

 

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drea from Rural Alberta, Canada is reading between the lines November 21, 2012 - 8:14am

^ SALUT, H.I. Marcuson! And to the person who said my story should have been (message redacted) I say to you, (message redacted). 

 

Personally, I am going to be more sensitive to other's work out of respect for the vulnerbility that goes along with putting work out there for judgement and acknowledge their effort. Our opinions are just that. If a critique cannot be helpful, or I don't back my opinion up with resources and tips for the author, I'm going to just keep my opinion to myself. While this is a contest, writing is about the personal development of the author's craft. We all start somewhere. There are markets and stories which pander to markets, but in the end, we should all just write the best story we can. As Cheryl Strayed said, the most rewarding thing about the process of writing Wild was simply finishing the book (not Oprah, not Reese Witherspoon, etc,) and knowing she had written the best story she could, regardless if the work was relegated to a drawer and only her husband ever read it, SHE knew. So, there's that.