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Laramore Black from Joplin, Missouri is reading Mario Kart 8 March 3, 2012 - 6:28pm

Bumped past the Rocky music!

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin March 3, 2012 - 6:37pm

I ain't scared of no prompt.

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 6:47pm

Fuck yeah. Hand me a prompt with a romance involved and all kinds of messed up shiz is gonna happen. Don't worry @Americantypo you will do great. The more restrictive the more you get to flex your creativity!

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 6:49pm

@chester you are one dirty fuck to spar with! Bring it on.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 3, 2012 - 8:49pm

I don't do weird. I have a feeling my stuff is going to pale against the rest of all this, unless I end up against Avery and she writes a fucking seashell metaphor story.

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 3, 2012 - 9:15pm

i just want to try and wade through the semen in this thread and see if i can ask a couple questions:

1. will the stories/voting be closed to the public so we can try to salvage them for later use?

2. WILL THE STORIES/VOTING BE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC SO WE CAN TRY TO SALVAGE THEM FOR LATER USE???

:)

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks March 3, 2012 - 9:28pm

I think someone mentioned earlier that it would be just workshop members that would be able to see the stories and vote? Could be wrong.

In other news, to all you litreactorites, I've been on a really healthy run of writing lately! Am going to try to squeeze one more short story in before the battle begins, putting me at three for the month as well as a few rewrites. Currently waiting to hear back on four submissions, one of which will be accepted upon conditions of a rewrite (which I just finished today). Boom.

I need a fucking drink. And will probably start to hate the long white columns of this message board.

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks March 3, 2012 - 9:29pm

Also, did no one appreciate the episode idea I had for Chopped?

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks March 3, 2012 - 9:32pm

It would be really helpful is the prompt was "boy kept in a dark basement". Just saying, it would kill two birds with one stone here.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 3, 2012 - 9:39pm

will the stories/voting be closed to the public so we can try to salvage them for later use?

As we have several people involved in the tournament who are not members of the workshop I have no plan to close the voting to only workshop members.  Is your concern that someone will steal your work and publish it?

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin March 3, 2012 - 9:47pm

No, I think she's worried that publishers might consider stories written for this and publicly available "already published"

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 9:47pm

i think people want to be able to use these stories elsewhere so they don't want them open to the public. there might be a way to make sure it stays within registered users.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 3, 2012 - 9:50pm

Mmm...this is something I have no experience with.  Anybody know anything about this issue?  Because my full intent is to ensure that authors keep all rights and capabilities and all those other words throughout. 

If it's publically accessible is that considered published?

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch March 3, 2012 - 9:50pm

Am I crazy or is it true that no stories posted in a workshop are considered published, and that if you submit to journals etc, they won't really care where you workshoped it? This here is not a publication, as far as I know...!!!

And now I know how to disguise my own writing. Thanks all for ideas muahahahaha!

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 9:51pm
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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 3, 2012 - 9:52pm

You certainly seem to be very flexible.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 3, 2012 - 9:55pm

No facebook Nikki?

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 9:57pm

keeps the blood going for all these hours spent in the chair writing my little heart out! you know you could like start posting beefcake photos and get everything like what was i writing?

@Panda i have a facebook. nikki guerlain

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 3, 2012 - 10:05pm

Your background is a DeLorean...

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 10:08pm

yeah, that's my mojo writing hot wheel. yes, i know, i'm that cool.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 3, 2012 - 10:09pm

Look at my default picture...

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 10:13pm

nice panda!

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 10:18pm

@utah I'm not an expert but from what i understand most editors buying stories don't count workshopping your piece as having been published. however, if it's open to the public i'm sure first rights probably aren't there i'm just not sure whether it will really prevent anyone from publishing the piece elsewhere ... you could always rewrite the story or change it and i'm sure that'd okay. it's not like editors don't know that people are shown early drafts of things etc and that everything happens via the web these days.

i'd ask richard what he thought.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 3, 2012 - 10:20pm

I don't think anything on these forums could be considered 'published' by any stretch of the imagination. However, someone did mention earlier the possibility of locking the thread to members only--in other words making it 'private' instead of public.

But I really wouldn't worry about that unless of course you see one of your stories pop up in Ploughshares with Chester Pane's name on it. 

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 10:25pm

@chester i'm not worried about it either. lots of people love sloppy seconds anyhoo.

 

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 3, 2012 - 10:29pm

DeLorean!

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 3, 2012 - 10:37pm

My skull just creamed in its own mouth.

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 10:41pm

totally!

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Dave from a city near you is reading constantly March 3, 2012 - 10:51pm

Is that a DeLorean?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I know that was like two weeks ago, I couldn't resist.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 3, 2012 - 11:19pm

Certain things, like Pandademics, Deloreans and Blood and Semen just demand love.

Apparently someone is putting the Delorean back into production.

I wish they would make a Pandelorean.

 

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 3, 2012 - 11:27pm

yeah i just asked my partner about that and he said some guy bought all the extra bodies outside the warehouse and is custom building them for whomever has 6 digits and wants one and that all them will have like 1981 on the title or some shiz like that.

that said, i want one. real bad. like i want a hot dog real bad want a delorean real bad that bad. Yo.

i think it'd be real coo to have a Tesla and a Delorean in the driveway. Better start pimpin my ass.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 4, 2012 - 1:25am

I don't know who is hotter, Panda or the Delorean.  Panda in the Delorean while travelling back to 1955 for the win!

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. March 4, 2012 - 5:52am

Would you guys just screw already?! Everyone I mean...

Like a huge Lit orgy.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 4, 2012 - 8:28am

Shit guys - I lose power for a few days and you do all THIS???  I'm not even trying to keep up, but I'm pretty excited about all this.

"unless I end up against Avery and she writes a fucking seashell metaphor story."

@Bek - My seashells will DESTROY YOU!!! 

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 4, 2012 - 9:11am

@Avery - I'm glad you were okay.  You weren't posting all around like you usually do.

That said, BRING IT! YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD I CAN BRING IT!

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 4, 2012 - 10:12am

I'll make sure you two are in the same bracket, then.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 4, 2012 - 10:41am

Utah - I think I threatened you about this earlier.  I don't want to go against Beka in the first round! 

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies March 4, 2012 - 11:23am

on the subject of published and workshops:

if the stories are live and available here in a workshop but it is behind a pay to enter barrier, then it is not considered published. also, we attach our stories, we don't post them up. the real test is to do a search for the story title and author. if nothing comes up, then you're probably safe. but yeah, i think we're fine here as long as the public, somebody from outside the workshop, can't read the story.

i had a story up in a forum for a contest, live, the whole thing posted into a thread. after the contest was over, i pulled it.

i think we're okay.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 4, 2012 - 11:30am

I had sent out a story over a year ago for publication. This was back in the Cult days. I used my real name on the manuscript and query. A couple of months later I received a rejection email. The email was addressed to my old username on Cult, not my name. They didn't specifically say why they rejected my story, but I think a part of it was that it was posted online.

I sent the same story out back in December. Before I sent it out, I Googled it and it came up in a search leading directly to here. I pulled it from here and one other site I had it posted on. Unfortunately, they also rejected it, but this time with a very encouraging personal rejection.

I would, for sake of safety, pull any story I was going to send out from any site it's posted on.

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch March 4, 2012 - 1:14pm

I guess some publishers are more meticulous than others. The question is, can they sue you if they find out later that it was/is in a workshop?

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies March 4, 2012 - 1:21pm

^it can't qualify as published, @liana if the story was simply workshopped. nobody is going to sue anybody, we're fighting over pennies here. if it is a public forum, then yes, they could ask for their money back or pull the story. it's all about having the story, yeah? what publication wants to acquire (for money or not) a story that is already readily available someplace else? they want original content, and usually, first rights.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 4, 2012 - 2:50pm

Making the threads private let's registered members view it, including the few non-paying members so it works out for everyone. I'd prefer if we delete the file attachments after voting, anyway.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 4, 2012 - 2:56pm

If we delete after voting, it should be fine.  I don't see anyone on here as a thief but that's just me. I think I have a good grasp of the majority of the writers on this sight and we are all just average Joes working of our own merit.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 4, 2012 - 3:11pm

Pretty sure at least two are thieves.

 

nah, kidding. But I've got my eye on you fuckers!

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 4, 2012 - 3:18pm

I'm going to start writing some hot navy man on man fiction and post it under Joe's name.

"The walls of the submarine were so small, they could hear every fart, the stench of man was overwhelming.  They rubbed their slick, hairy bodies against one another in desperation, the smell of armpits filled the air and sweaty chodes."

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 4, 2012 - 3:31pm

The smell of armpits filled sweaty chodes? You live in a strange universe, buddy.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 4, 2012 - 3:31pm

Okay - the final word on the polls is that we will lock them so only registered users can see them.  Once the poll is over and the winners announced, we will delete the stories from the poll.

Does that work?

This is running on the assumption that nonpaying users can see those little threads with the locks next to them - can they?  Someone check on that. 

 

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson March 4, 2012 - 3:36pm

"But captain, I already swabbed the decks."

"The decks are nay what I told ye to swab laddy."

Captain anchor said as his weather worn hands unfurled his pants to reveal a rigid mast. The smell of unwashed  oysters fill my lungs as I set about my captains orders.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 4, 2012 - 3:38pm

 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 4, 2012 - 3:38pm

Okay - another thing, after a poll has ended - can they be edited?  Because I just went back to one of my old ones and I couldn't edit it to removed the stories.  So that could be a technical issue. 

And now I will quit trying to be the final word on anything.  See, this is why Utah puts this stuff together and I don't.