Jose F. Diaz
from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary MantelMarch 9, 2012 - 4:16pm
It's be who you aren't day. DUH!
PandaMask
from Los Angeles is reading More Than HumanMarch 9, 2012 - 4:16pm
Avery's picture reminds me of Harvey Dent.
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Utah
from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtryMarch 9, 2012 - 4:18pm
Now I feel like myself again.
Jose F. Diaz
from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary MantelMarch 9, 2012 - 4:18pm
HEY! Off topic, I have a phone conference with Suzy Vitello tonight and I have no questions that are burning in my mind to ask. If you have any please let me know. Serious ones only please.
I'm just too knew to know what to ask that would actually help me. Because at this point. Eveyrthing will.
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 4:28pm
Okay - I want to be me now. Please?
PandaMask
from Los Angeles is reading More Than HumanMarch 9, 2012 - 4:35pm
Ask her how to show and not tell.
I'm serious.
aliensoul77
from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall.March 9, 2012 - 4:36pm
I'm Matt's feminine side.
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 4:38pm
@Panda - haven't you read the essay???
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 4:39pm
@Alien - Matt is Matt's feminine side.
Jose F. Diaz
from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary MantelMarch 9, 2012 - 4:40pm
Will do Panda. I'll try going further into the rabbit hole. Okay off to the bar to get greased up for the conversaion.
PandaMask
from Los Angeles is reading More Than HumanMarch 9, 2012 - 4:47pm
Ask her about plot, character development, and tension build up. How to structure a story and maintain its flow.
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 4:50pm
You want him to ask her how to write a story?
PandaMask
from Los Angeles is reading More Than HumanMarch 9, 2012 - 4:52pm
Her own opinions on how to do these certain things. It is an intro. class according to Joe.
Matt Attack
from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William FaulknerMarch 9, 2012 - 5:31pm
@Alien - Matt is Matt's feminine side."
Wow. LMAO, why do I bother getting on here. Haha
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 5:32pm
She what I mean?
Matt Attack
from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William FaulknerMarch 9, 2012 - 5:36pm
She what I mean?"
I literally LOL at that. You are fire today! Lovin it.
Liana
from Romania and Texas is reading Naked LunchMarch 9, 2012 - 6:06pm
Zooey was cool when she was in quirky movies. Now don't tell me that you like that show she's in, with the roomnates and such. That show takes her quirky cuteness and turns it into mass-produced Disney cotton candy. I tried to watch it. Bleah.
I did love 500 Days of Summer.
Americantypo, it doesn't matter if they all wrote their stories. I didn't, so we're both in the same boat.
Nikki Guerlain
from Portlandia
March 9, 2012 - 6:27pm
I like new girl. Not ashamed either.
Matt Attack
from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William FaulknerMarch 9, 2012 - 6:44pm
500 Days of Summer."
I thought it was alright. Not a total loss. I dated a girl like that. Total fucking fruit loop, but a hell of a lot of fun. I did want to strangle the lead actor though.
manda lynn
from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again)March 9, 2012 - 6:57pm
i like New Girl, too. Zooey was cool in The Good Girl and Almost Famous and she's cool doing this:
THAT SCENE IS AWESOME!!
manda lynn
from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again)March 9, 2012 - 6:58pm
"I'M GONNA SPLIT YOU LIKE A LOOOOOOOG! i'm being a lumberjack."
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 7:05pm
I forgot she was the sister in Almost Famous. I adore that movie.
manda lynn
from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again)March 9, 2012 - 7:11pm
me too! i'm kind of a Cameron Crowe sucker, though. he even did Dazed and Confused, right? i think i like them all but Fast Times, which for some reason i seriously just can't get into.
but yeah, Almost Famous. makes me happy.
and sort of want to be a groupie....
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 7:13pm
I sort of was a groupie for awhile, but not in such an epic way. I feel the same way about Cameron Crowe. Elizabethtown is another favorite of his.
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Utah
from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtryMarch 9, 2012 - 7:20pm
Oh my.
What band, pray tell?
manda lynn
from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again)March 9, 2012 - 7:20pm
i didn't know Elizabethtown was his, i haven't seen it. i'll have to look it up.
or, you know..... write this story.....
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 9, 2012 - 7:23pm
Nah - watch Elizabethtown first. You won't regret it.
Utah - I'd rather not say.
manda lynn
from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again)March 9, 2012 - 7:40pm
TRICKERY FROM THE COMPETITION! i shall not watch Elizabethtown.
instead i shall watch anything with Jason Statham and finish setting up this damned site. THEN i'll write the story :)
Chester Pane
from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot DiazMarch 9, 2012 - 8:05pm
Zooey is cute, but not hot. I suppose if I saw her in real life at Walgreens or Costco I'd want to smell her, but her nasal overlay is slightly annoying. She is a pretty good actress, but not exceptional. Just my personal tastes.
I suppose I have always just been more of a Scarlet kind of guy. Or at least in that direction. Monica Bellucci, now there is sex and brains.
Richard
from St. Louis is reading various anthologiesMarch 9, 2012 - 10:15pm
oh she's hot, in all kinds of ways. and i do love the show. it isn't home run after home run, but besides the fact that i could just stare at her for hours, i do think it's pretty funny. i think i like TWO BROKE GIRLS better though. dirtier. and don't get me started on kat dennings. yes, i follow them both on twitter.
Liana
from Romania and Texas is reading Naked LunchMarch 9, 2012 - 10:54pm
Anyone watches Shameless? Now that's a cool show... Funny, sexy, funny, and pretty much every character is worth watching (and I mean the American version, because I haven't seen the British one).
Renfield
from Hell is reading 20th Century GhostsMarch 10, 2012 - 1:12am
he even did Dazed and Confused, right?
That that Richard Linklater (spellings?) who did all that A Scanner Darkly and stuff. Cameron Crowe, I'm not entirely sure I even like. Gotta watch Almost Famous and Vanilla Sky again.
War-wise, I've gone to the gym, slept, and watched a couple X-Files episodes instead of storying. Its now 3 AM, which is the worst time to go to the store to buy cigarettes because the fuckers are always hanging out in the stock room instead of clerkin' me, and this is all to say, hell if I'm going to get some writing done without having some smokes.
aliensoul77
from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall.March 10, 2012 - 1:18am
@Liana--
Shameless is insane. I like it though.
wickedvoodoo
from Mansfield, England is reading stuff.March 10, 2012 - 3:54am
The American Shameless is not a patch on it's forfather. In my humble opinion of course. Then again, the UK show has also been shit for three series now, they have lost too many of the original writers and actors.
Jose F. Diaz
from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary MantelMarch 10, 2012 - 5:21am
SHAMELESS is Awesome with a side of bacon. That show just cracks me up and makes me miss my childhood. *tear*
Renfield
from Hell is reading 20th Century GhostsMarch 10, 2012 - 7:12am
How'd we go from smack talking to tv shows? Back to original programming. Yall suck.
Renfield
from Hell is reading 20th Century GhostsMarch 10, 2012 - 7:14am
GO BIG OR GO FUCK YOURSELF
Matt Attack
from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William FaulknerMarch 10, 2012 - 8:00am
Since she married the guy from The Shins, I have started to dislike her.
I would find your overall narrative and then merge the two. Once you have done this, consolidate and then use word economy. The things I have read from you before were really heavy on detail and heavy on poetic imagery (which I loved). I would focus on combining that with the overall story you want to tell but don't let the story get lost in the details. You should be able to cull enough to be in word count. I don't think what I just said makes sense....but it did to me! LOL (this is something I am learning as well) *I could be totally wrong!*
So since we're both McCarthy fans, think of this line.
"The clocks stopped at 1:17. A long shear of light and then a series of low concussions." Lots of detail, the world is there, and it pushes the story forward without offending our artistic sensibilities. LOL
Ren that is a pretty awesome giff.
Renfield
from Hell is reading 20th Century GhostsMarch 10, 2012 - 8:00am
Right now, I'm working on a fucking outline in one document/details and snippets of scenes in another...those combined have me at about double the word count all ready. That's not even me writing well formed sentences!!
Maybe save that stuff for a different version of the story. Contained in 2500 words, (which, you know, seems quite a good amount to me,) maybe ignore the meticulous outline and whatever scenes you have planned and just tell the story with just enough information as possible to get to the next part and the next part all to the end. Consolidate the important facts into key scenes, don't overdo it on periphal descriptions. Short and sweet, is kinda the idea.
Matt Attack
from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William FaulknerMarch 10, 2012 - 8:04am
I already started that war. Hahahaha, it's my favorite part too. I am a visual person...
Utah
from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtryMarch 10, 2012 - 8:05am
rach122: I'll say this without knowing anything about your story. There is a good chance that somewhere in that 4000 words or so you've written there is a 2500 word story hiding. You just need to figure out which of that stuff only exists in there because you kinda needed it to continue to fuel your creative process. Usually, especially if I'm writing a story where I'm not 100% certain of the elements before I begin, I find I can just axe the first couple-three pages and start closer to the middle.
If you're completely dedicated to this story and want to pursue it for the competition. On the other hand, there is also this awesome possibility that Round 1 gives you two stories, this one that is big and another that is a bit more contained.
The only thing better than writing is writing more.
avery of the dead
from Kentucky is reading Cipher SistersMarch 10, 2012 - 8:56am
"The only thing better than writing is writing more."
Yee haw.
My story needs more cowbell. And by cowbell, I mean seashells!!
Richard
from St. Louis is reading various anthologiesMarch 10, 2012 - 9:31am
I need advice- do I keep going and hope that I can slash it to pieces once I get to the end of my plot, or do I just start over?
I think you've got some good advice already, Rach, but yeah, I think you can cut out part of the story, trim it back, really see if you need all of that. If it DOES need all of that, if it needs to be 5000 words, or maybe a novel, then put it aside, and start over with a smaller idea. i'm sure you'll figure it out. the story will be what it wants to be. sometimes it's 500 words, sometimes 1,500 or 2,500 or 5,000 and sometimes it grows to 50,000. only you can be the one to make that decision, it's your world.
good luck.
Flaminia Ferina
from Umbria is reading stuffMarch 10, 2012 - 9:31am
Cowbell was last night's keyword for me, there was this gig and was cool and stuff, only the band lacked that particular percussion. And now I'm still outlining, but I like the nuts of this outline!
Agreed. More cowbell. Yayh.
Nikki Guerlain
from Portlandia
March 10, 2012 - 10:09am
I just started working on my story this morning so if y'all felt shooting pains in your arses and your ears were burning too ... Yeah, that was me. Prepare to get your earholes fucked in the most pleasant of ways. You'll be reading this shit outloud because you will hardly be able to believe what you're reading if you don't. So clench those little cheekies up because I'm coming for all your literary arse cherries.
Yeah.
Cheers, love & unicorns
P.s. chestie Randy's butt started oozing last night and he had a dream that you visited him. Coinkydink?
Americantypo
from Philadelphia is reading The Bone ClocksMarch 10, 2012 - 10:27am
Finally started my story. Took a few days to think of something. Thank god we have ten days!
aliensoul77
from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall.March 10, 2012 - 12:24pm
I'm resisting the urge to do a twist ending.
Chester Pane
from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot DiazMarch 10, 2012 - 12:48pm
I'm resisting the urge to twist my fun parts.
On the other hand, there is also this awesome possibility that Round 1 gives you two stories, this one that is big and another that is a bit more contained.
-This happens everytime I write. Multiple story syndrome. The story I think I am writing is never the one I write. Or: I feel more like I do now than I did before.
Rach, like Richard Ricardo said, you got all the advice you need from those good folks above (or below in your case). This is not my advice, but some guy once said, in terms of short story writing, start as close to the end as possible. Whatever that means.
*I had a dream last night that I was in Brandon's apartment. Weird. I don't know if that has anything to do with Randy's condition, but it is the only feasible prognosis.
P.S. Zooey is not hot.
Flaminia Ferina
from Umbria is reading stuffMarch 10, 2012 - 1:16pm
*Last night a very nice and rather jumblied girl told me she had a dream where I juggled her bazooms while force-feeding her walnuts. She said it was hot. I said, "It sure was."
wickedvoodoo
from Mansfield, England is reading stuff.March 10, 2012 - 1:46pm
I also made a start on my story today. I think that mostly, mainly, probably, possibly I have all the key ideas mapped out in my head. I am not doing a written plan per se, because everytime I try I end up spending weeks on that stage alone. WAR!!!! requires that we shoot from the hip. Live dangerously. I want to draft it out over the next two days then I have the rest of next week for editing and tweaking. This is either going to rock, or will be a complete fuck-up.
It's be who you aren't day. DUH!
Avery's picture reminds me of Harvey Dent.
Now I feel like myself again.
HEY! Off topic, I have a phone conference with Suzy Vitello tonight and I have no questions that are burning in my mind to ask. If you have any please let me know. Serious ones only please.
I'm just too knew to know what to ask that would actually help me. Because at this point. Eveyrthing will.
Okay - I want to be me now. Please?
Ask her how to show and not tell.
I'm serious.
I'm Matt's feminine side.
@Panda - haven't you read the essay???
@Alien - Matt is Matt's feminine side.
Will do Panda. I'll try going further into the rabbit hole. Okay off to the bar to get greased up for the conversaion.
Ask her about plot, character development, and tension build up. How to structure a story and maintain its flow.
You want him to ask her how to write a story?
Her own opinions on how to do these certain things. It is an intro. class according to Joe.
Wow. LMAO, why do I bother getting on here. Haha
She what I mean?
I literally LOL at that. You are fire today! Lovin it.
Zooey was cool when she was in quirky movies. Now don't tell me that you like that show she's in, with the roomnates and such. That show takes her quirky cuteness and turns it into mass-produced Disney cotton candy. I tried to watch it. Bleah.
I did love 500 Days of Summer.
Americantypo, it doesn't matter if they all wrote their stories. I didn't, so we're both in the same boat.
I like new girl. Not ashamed either.
I thought it was alright. Not a total loss. I dated a girl like that. Total fucking fruit loop, but a hell of a lot of fun. I did want to strangle the lead actor though.
i like New Girl, too. Zooey was cool in The Good Girl and Almost Famous and she's cool doing this:
THAT SCENE IS AWESOME!!
"I'M GONNA SPLIT YOU LIKE A LOOOOOOOG! i'm being a lumberjack."
I forgot she was the sister in Almost Famous. I adore that movie.
me too! i'm kind of a Cameron Crowe sucker, though. he even did Dazed and Confused, right? i think i like them all but Fast Times, which for some reason i seriously just can't get into.
but yeah, Almost Famous. makes me happy.
and sort of want to be a groupie....
I sort of was a groupie for awhile, but not in such an epic way. I feel the same way about Cameron Crowe. Elizabethtown is another favorite of his.
Oh my.
What band, pray tell?
i didn't know Elizabethtown was his, i haven't seen it. i'll have to look it up.
or, you know..... write this story.....
Nah - watch Elizabethtown first. You won't regret it.
Utah - I'd rather not say.
TRICKERY FROM THE COMPETITION! i shall not watch Elizabethtown.
instead i shall watch anything with Jason Statham and finish setting up this damned site. THEN i'll write the story :)
Zooey is cute, but not hot. I suppose if I saw her in real life at Walgreens or Costco I'd want to smell her, but her nasal overlay is slightly annoying. She is a pretty good actress, but not exceptional. Just my personal tastes.
I suppose I have always just been more of a Scarlet kind of guy. Or at least in that direction. Monica Bellucci, now there is sex and brains.
oh she's hot, in all kinds of ways. and i do love the show. it isn't home run after home run, but besides the fact that i could just stare at her for hours, i do think it's pretty funny. i think i like TWO BROKE GIRLS better though. dirtier. and don't get me started on kat dennings. yes, i follow them both on twitter.
Anyone watches Shameless? Now that's a cool show... Funny, sexy, funny, and pretty much every character is worth watching (and I mean the American version, because I haven't seen the British one).
@Liana--
Shameless is insane. I like it though.
The American Shameless is not a patch on it's forfather. In my humble opinion of course. Then again, the UK show has also been shit for three series now, they have lost too many of the original writers and actors.
SHAMELESS is Awesome with a side of bacon. That show just cracks me up and makes me miss my childhood. *tear*
How'd we go from smack talking to tv shows? Back to original programming. Yall suck.
GO BIG OR GO FUCK YOURSELF
Since she married the guy from The Shins, I have started to dislike her.
I would find your overall narrative and then merge the two. Once you have done this, consolidate and then use word economy. The things I have read from you before were really heavy on detail and heavy on poetic imagery (which I loved). I would focus on combining that with the overall story you want to tell but don't let the story get lost in the details. You should be able to cull enough to be in word count. I don't think what I just said makes sense....but it did to me! LOL (this is something I am learning as well) *I could be totally wrong!*
So since we're both McCarthy fans, think of this line.
"The clocks stopped at 1:17. A long shear of light and then a series of low concussions." Lots of detail, the world is there, and it pushes the story forward without offending our artistic sensibilities. LOL
Ren that is a pretty awesome giff.
I already started that war. Hahahaha, it's my favorite part too. I am a visual person...
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rach122: I'll say this without knowing anything about your story. There is a good chance that somewhere in that 4000 words or so you've written there is a 2500 word story hiding. You just need to figure out which of that stuff only exists in there because you kinda needed it to continue to fuel your creative process. Usually, especially if I'm writing a story where I'm not 100% certain of the elements before I begin, I find I can just axe the first couple-three pages and start closer to the middle.
If you're completely dedicated to this story and want to pursue it for the competition. On the other hand, there is also this awesome possibility that Round 1 gives you two stories, this one that is big and another that is a bit more contained.
The only thing better than writing is writing more.
"The only thing better than writing is writing more."
Yee haw.
My story needs more cowbell. And by cowbell, I mean seashells!!
I think you've got some good advice already, Rach, but yeah, I think you can cut out part of the story, trim it back, really see if you need all of that. If it DOES need all of that, if it needs to be 5000 words, or maybe a novel, then put it aside, and start over with a smaller idea. i'm sure you'll figure it out. the story will be what it wants to be. sometimes it's 500 words, sometimes 1,500 or 2,500 or 5,000 and sometimes it grows to 50,000. only you can be the one to make that decision, it's your world.
good luck.
Cowbell was last night's keyword for me, there was this gig and was cool and stuff, only the band lacked that particular percussion. And now I'm still outlining, but I like the nuts of this outline!
Agreed. More cowbell. Yayh.
I just started working on my story this morning so if y'all felt shooting pains in your arses and your ears were burning too ... Yeah, that was me. Prepare to get your earholes fucked in the most pleasant of ways. You'll be reading this shit outloud because you will hardly be able to believe what you're reading if you don't. So clench those little cheekies up because I'm coming for all your literary arse cherries.
Yeah.
Cheers, love & unicorns
P.s. chestie Randy's butt started oozing last night and he had a dream that you visited him. Coinkydink?
Finally started my story. Took a few days to think of something. Thank god we have ten days!
I'm resisting the urge to do a twist ending.
I'm resisting the urge to twist my fun parts.
*Last night a very nice and rather jumblied girl told me she had a dream where I juggled her bazooms while force-feeding her walnuts. She said it was hot. I said, "It sure was."
I also made a start on my story today. I think that mostly, mainly, probably, possibly I have all the key ideas mapped out in my head. I am not doing a written plan per se, because everytime I try I end up spending weeks on that stage alone. WAR!!!! requires that we shoot from the hip. Live dangerously. I want to draft it out over the next two days then I have the rest of next week for editing and tweaking. This is either going to rock, or will be a complete fuck-up.
Bring it on.