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Jose F. Diaz from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel March 9, 2012 - 4:16pm

It's be who you aren't day. DUH!

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 9, 2012 - 4:16pm

Avery's picture reminds me of Harvey Dent.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 9, 2012 - 4:18pm

Now I feel like myself again.

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Jose F. Diaz from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel March 9, 2012 - 4:18pm

HEY! Off topic, I have a phone conference with Suzy Vitello tonight and I have no questions that are burning in my mind to ask. If you have any please let me know. Serious ones only please.

I'm just too knew to know what to ask that would actually help me. Because at this point. Eveyrthing will.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 4:28pm

Okay - I want to be me now.  Please?

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 9, 2012 - 4:35pm

Ask her how to show and not tell.

I'm serious.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 9, 2012 - 4:36pm

I'm Matt's feminine side.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 4:38pm

@Panda - haven't you read the essay???

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 4:39pm

@Alien - Matt is Matt's feminine side.

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Jose F. Diaz from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel March 9, 2012 - 4:40pm

Will do Panda. I'll try going further into the rabbit hole. Okay off to the bar to get greased up for the conversaion.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 9, 2012 - 4:47pm

Ask her about plot, character development, and tension build up. How to structure a story and maintain its flow.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 4:50pm

You want him to ask her how to write a story?

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 9, 2012 - 4:52pm

Her own opinions on how to do these certain things. It is an intro. class according to Joe.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 9, 2012 - 5:31pm

@Alien - Matt is Matt's feminine side."

 

Wow. LMAO, why do I bother getting on here. Haha

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 5:32pm

She what I mean?

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 9, 2012 - 5:36pm

She what I mean?"

 

I literally LOL at that. You are fire today! Lovin it. 

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch March 9, 2012 - 6:06pm

Zooey was cool when she was in quirky movies. Now don't tell me that you like that show she's in, with the roomnates and such. That show takes her quirky cuteness and turns it into mass-produced Disney cotton candy. I tried to watch it. Bleah.

I did love 500 Days of Summer.

Americantypo, it doesn't matter if they all wrote their stories. I didn't, so we're both in the same boat.

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 9, 2012 - 6:27pm

I like new girl. Not ashamed either.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 9, 2012 - 6:44pm

500 Days of Summer."

I thought it was alright. Not a total loss. I dated a girl like that. Total fucking fruit loop, but a hell of a lot of fun. I did want to strangle the lead actor though. 

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 9, 2012 - 6:57pm

i like New Girl, too. Zooey was cool in The Good Girl and Almost Famous and she's cool doing this:

THAT SCENE IS AWESOME!! 

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 9, 2012 - 6:58pm

"I'M GONNA SPLIT YOU LIKE A LOOOOOOOG! i'm being a lumberjack."

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 7:05pm

I forgot she was the sister in Almost Famous.  I adore that movie.

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 9, 2012 - 7:11pm

me too! i'm kind of a Cameron Crowe sucker, though. he even did Dazed and Confused, right? i think i like them all but Fast Times, which for some reason i seriously just can't get into.

but yeah, Almost Famous. makes me happy.

and sort of want to be a groupie....

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 7:13pm

I sort of was a groupie for awhile, but not in such an epic way.  I feel the same way about Cameron Crowe.  Elizabethtown is another favorite of his.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 9, 2012 - 7:20pm

Oh my.

What band, pray tell?

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 9, 2012 - 7:20pm

i didn't know Elizabethtown was his, i haven't seen it. i'll have to look it up.

or, you know..... write this story.....

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 7:23pm

Nah - watch Elizabethtown first.  You won't regret it.

Utah - I'd rather not say.

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manda lynn from Ohio is reading Of Love and Other Demons (again) March 9, 2012 - 7:40pm

TRICKERY FROM THE COMPETITION! i shall not watch Elizabethtown.

instead i shall watch anything with Jason Statham and finish setting up this damned site. THEN i'll write the story :)

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 9, 2012 - 8:05pm

Zooey is cute, but not hot. I suppose if I saw her in real life at Walgreens or Costco I'd want to smell her, but her nasal overlay is slightly annoying. She is a pretty good actress, but not exceptional. Just my personal tastes.

I suppose I have always just been more of a Scarlet kind of guy. Or at least in that direction. Monica Bellucci, now there is sex and brains.

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies March 9, 2012 - 10:15pm

oh she's hot, in all kinds of ways. and i do love the show. it isn't home run after home run, but besides the fact that i could just stare at her for hours, i do think it's pretty funny. i think i like TWO BROKE GIRLS better though. dirtier. and don't get me started on kat dennings. yes, i follow them both on twitter.

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch March 9, 2012 - 10:54pm

Anyone watches Shameless? Now that's a cool show... Funny, sexy, funny, and pretty much every character is worth watching (and I mean the American version, because I haven't seen the British one).

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 10, 2012 - 1:12am

he even did Dazed and Confused, right?

 

That that Richard Linklater (spellings?) who did all that A Scanner Darkly and stuff. Cameron Crowe, I'm not entirely sure I even like. Gotta watch Almost Famous and Vanilla Sky again.

 

 

War-wise, I've gone to the gym, slept, and watched a couple X-Files episodes instead of storying. Its now 3 AM, which is the worst time to go to the store to buy cigarettes because the fuckers are always hanging out in the stock room instead of clerkin' me, and this is all to say, hell if I'm going to get some writing done without having some smokes.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 10, 2012 - 1:18am

@Liana--

Shameless is insane. I like it though.

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. March 10, 2012 - 3:54am

The American Shameless is not a patch on it's forfather. In my humble opinion of course. Then again, the UK show has also been shit for three series now, they have lost too many of the original writers and actors.

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Jose F. Diaz from Boston is reading Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel March 10, 2012 - 5:21am

SHAMELESS is Awesome with a side of bacon. That show just cracks me up and makes me miss my childhood. *tear*

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 10, 2012 - 7:12am

How'd we go from smack talking to tv shows? Back to original programming. Yall suck.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 10, 2012 - 7:14am

GO BIG OR GO FUCK YOURSELF

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 10, 2012 - 8:00am

Since she married the guy from The Shins, I have started to dislike her. 

I would find your overall narrative and then merge the two. Once you have done this, consolidate and then use word economy. The things I have read from you before were really heavy on detail and heavy on poetic imagery (which I loved). I would focus on combining that with the overall story you want to tell but don't let the story get lost in the details. You should be able to cull enough to be in word count. I don't think what I just said makes sense....but it did to me! LOL (this is something I am learning as well) *I could be totally wrong!*

So since we're both McCarthy fans, think of this line. 

"The clocks stopped at 1:17. A long shear of light and then a series of low concussions." Lots of detail, the world is there, and it pushes the story forward without offending our artistic sensibilities. LOL

Ren that is a pretty awesome giff. 

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts March 10, 2012 - 8:00am

Right now, I'm working on a fucking outline in one document/details and snippets of scenes in another...those combined have me at about double the word count all ready.  That's not even me writing well formed sentences!!

 

Maybe save that stuff for a different version of the story. Contained in 2500 words, (which, you know, seems quite a good amount to me,) maybe ignore the meticulous outline and whatever scenes you have planned and just tell the story with just enough information as possible to get to the next part and the next part all to the end. Consolidate the important facts into key scenes, don't overdo it on periphal descriptions. Short and sweet, is kinda the idea.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 10, 2012 - 8:04am

I already started that war. Hahahaha, it's my favorite part too. I am a visual person...

 

Link 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 10, 2012 - 8:05am

rach122:  I'll say this without knowing anything about your story.  There is a good chance that somewhere in that 4000 words or so you've written there is a 2500 word story hiding.  You just need to figure out which of that stuff only exists in there because you kinda needed it to continue to fuel your creative process.  Usually, especially if I'm writing a story where I'm not 100% certain of the elements before I begin, I find I can just axe the first couple-three pages and start closer to the middle.

If you're completely dedicated to this story and want to pursue it for the competition.  On the other hand, there is also this awesome possibility that Round 1 gives you two stories, this one that is big and another that is a bit more contained.

The only thing better than writing is writing more.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 10, 2012 - 8:56am

"The only thing better than writing is writing more."

Yee haw.

My story needs more cowbell.  And by cowbell, I mean seashells!!

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies March 10, 2012 - 9:31am

I need advice- do I keep going and hope that I can slash it to pieces once I get to the end of my plot, or do I just start over?

I think you've got some good advice already, Rach, but yeah, I think you can cut out part of the story, trim it back, really see if you need all of that. If it DOES need all of that, if it needs to be 5000 words, or maybe a novel, then put it aside, and start over with a smaller idea. i'm sure you'll figure it out. the story will be what it wants to be. sometimes it's 500 words, sometimes 1,500 or 2,500 or 5,000 and sometimes it grows to 50,000. only you can be the one to make that decision, it's your world.

good luck.

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Flaminia Ferina from Umbria is reading stuff March 10, 2012 - 9:31am

Cowbell was last night's keyword for me, there was this gig and was cool and stuff, only the band lacked that particular percussion. And now I'm still outlining, but I like the nuts of this outline!

Agreed. More cowbell. Yayh.

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Nikki Guerlain from Portlandia is reading Necronomicon Book Three March 10, 2012 - 10:09am

I just started working on my story this morning so if y'all felt shooting pains in your arses and your ears were burning too ... Yeah, that was me. Prepare to get your earholes fucked in the most pleasant of ways. You'll be reading this shit outloud because you will hardly be able to believe what you're reading if you don't. So clench those little cheekies up because I'm coming for all your literary arse cherries.

Yeah.

Cheers, love & unicorns

P.s. chestie Randy's butt started oozing last night and he had a dream that you visited him. Coinkydink?

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks March 10, 2012 - 10:27am

Finally started my story. Took a few days to think of something. Thank god we have ten days!

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 10, 2012 - 12:24pm

I'm resisting the urge to do a twist ending.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz March 10, 2012 - 12:48pm

I'm resisting the urge to twist my fun parts.

On the other hand, there is also this awesome possibility that Round 1 gives you two stories, this one that is big and another that is a bit more contained.

 

-This happens everytime I write. Multiple story syndrome. The story I think I am writing is never the one I write. Or: I feel more like I do now than I did before.

Rach, like Richard Ricardo said, you got all the advice you need from those good folks above (or below in your case). This is not my advice, but some guy once said, in terms of short story writing, start as close to the end as possible. Whatever that means.

*I had a dream last night that I was in Brandon's apartment. Weird. I don't know if that has anything to do with Randy's condition, but it is the only feasible prognosis.

P.S. Zooey is not hot.

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Flaminia Ferina from Umbria is reading stuff March 10, 2012 - 1:16pm

*Last night a very nice and rather jumblied girl told me she had a dream where I juggled her bazooms while force-feeding her walnuts. She said it was hot. I said, "It sure was."

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wickedvoodoo from Mansfield, England is reading stuff. March 10, 2012 - 1:46pm

I also made a start on my story today. I think that mostly, mainly, probably, possibly I have all the key ideas mapped out in my head. I am not doing a written plan per se, because everytime I try I end up spending weeks on that stage alone. WAR!!!! requires that we shoot from the hip. Live dangerously. I want to draft it out over the next two days then I have the rest of next week for editing and tweaking. This is either going to rock, or will be a complete fuck-up.

Bring it on.