Hey everyone! Just wanted to say thanks again for this awesome challenge. I just posted!
I'm really looking forward to all of your feedback. This is my first time ever putting work out into the world... and to be honest, I feel a little bit naked, but in an excited/good way haha.
Please go read it and let me know what you think!
Do I have until midnight tomorrow?
Can anybody tell me the etiquette of resubmitting? - I've had some outstanding feedback on my submission and would like to apply a last few changes (11th hour!). Do I just change the originally submitted story (making the comments moot), or should I post another one with an amended title (Rev 1 for example)? - des it even matter?
Also, anybody know what time (GMT) that entries close?
Don't moot out the comments, you will delete all the points you have garnished. Just remove the file and replace it with the new one. Also, Edit your agenda to say it is a revised version, then post a comment on your story page pointing out where you have addressed the concerns of the above reviewers in you latest draft.
I started this competition with 0 friends, and now I have 3. That alone is enough to make participating in the challenge a fulfilling experience.
^^^That's awesome, Ender. I've made a few friends myself on this site. It's a good place.
I lose all the friends i make...but that's probably because i make them out of paperclips.
The deadline issue's kinda important... does "by February 28th" mean it's due in by midnight tonight, or ON the 28th?
I'd turn it in tonight.
4! 5! Yes this is an awesome site.
@Chapel; have you tried binding the clips together with maybe some tape and/or glue? I would also loop a length of string through their heads so you can wear the around your neck or wrists (or keychains, backpack, a nail in the closet where you keep your shrine to Chris Angel, whatever you like).
Submitted. Hope you lot like it. I went utopian, and I went about as hard-utopian as I could.
Servants of the Last Man
About the thumbs down - I can't bring myself to use it. I've left a lot of the stories with a review but no thumb now, because it is just too harsh.
If the story is BAD, i could thumb it down. But very few stories are. It vexes me, because I understand the competition to work either or. If I cannot give a story a thumbs up, I should give it a thumbs down. So i am breaking the rules by inventing a third option (review but no thumb)
Maybe the admins could give us some of their thought on how they think this ideally should work now that submissions are closed.
What say you?
In Scare Us I was reluctant to give thumbs downs unless the story was just not comprehensible whatsoever, so there were a few. The rest I gave my best advice and a thumbs up.
As much as those ugly thumbs downs may hurt our egos, I believe you are doing a disservice to the contestant by not rating it at all. The whole contest is based on a point system and thumbs downs give you more points than no thumbs at all.
What - they do? This is news to me! Where are the ponts rules, again?
I never saw any rules I just figured it out by looking at the results on a story and doing the math.
Also, now that I officially missed the deadline myself because I'm at work and wouldn't be able to finish tonight. I can spend some of my free time reading more of you guys great stories. I plan to get alot of them read this weekend. I look forward to it. And good luck to everyone who entered.
Math? What is this of which you speak? We have not the 'math' on my homeworld, Procrastrina.
I like getting thumbs down as much as the next person (I don't), but I'd rather people be honest with whether they liked the story or not. At the very least, it gives me some indication of how much of this particular audience my story appeals to. It could be a wonderfully written story, with great meaning, life-changing imagery, etc., and somebody could just not like it. I personally don't vote that way, but I can't really begrudge somebody who does. I do appreciate them telling me what didn't gel though.
If they don't, I just assume that my story was so good it temporarily blinded them with a fog of sparkly awesomeness, and they accidentally hit the thumbs down.
Yes...I'm sure that's what happened.
Hey everyone. I submitted my story last night.
It's my first attempt at a complete story in some time and I can't wait to receive feedback on it. I also look forward to reading some of the other entries.
I'm not new to Lit Reactor, but I haven't really posted here. I'm going to start. I'm so glad I received that email for Teleport Us so that I could jumpstart my participation again.
Thanks in advnace to all who rate and review and for letting me (re) join your community!
Just uploaded the final (I hope) version of my story. Nothing major- just a few tiny edits and some formatting tweaks. Last minute, that's me!
I posted mine lastnight, thinking the cutoff was today. Is it? There are bits i can improve in the last section, will attempt this asap.
As usual, left it to the last day to get a submission in there! As the main subject of the forum is will this/won't this count as published, I'll chip in with - does it matter as long as lots of people read it and you get some good feedback?
(Fingers crossed for some good feedback!)
Hmm - appears its not considered bad form to link your story in to your comment! And might help get it kickstarted... so - forgive the plug -
Cheers, and enjoy!
Ha! I thought the deadline was yesterday, so I pushed myself to write this in five hours :D Well, I am quite happy to notice that I can also work under pressure. Here it is:
It started from an idea that it would be cool to write a metaphor of Androids fighting for their rights to adopt children to present the current human right efforts of the LGBT-couples. But I think I didn't nail it. Maybe I will rewrite this story when I have more time at hand. Of course, my long-term lack of work came to end just this week, and I really needed the money. Bummer.
Anyway, let's have a good one!
So I'm doing well so far. I've tried reviewing other people (mostly from the ones that need readers) to hopefully encourage some feedback on my own, but I guess there's no easy way for people to see where your story is unless you post it in your profile.
BTW, I apologize if this has been asked, but is the evaluation period going to outlast the submission deadline? I'm hoping to spend some more time this weekend reviewing, and it would be pretty awful if the last-minute entries can't be reviewed...
Congrats on the new job @Ahti Ahde!
Reviews are being counted through the end of next month. Good Luck @Nathan!
Ha, I never saw that. Thanks.
Seems that a lot of people are feeling hesitant about pushing their work--both here on the boards and with our other writings out in the world. We writers tend to be that way, I guess. We have no issue with turning on the television and seeing three dozen ads in every twenty minutes of programming for some crappy beauty product or another, but we seem to have a hard time thinking of our 'art' as being something that needs to be given the same consideration. Or we think that it's someone else's job: our agent (if we're lucky enough to have one), or publisher, or whoever. Alas, the current publishing paradigm doesn't work that way. Even if you enjoy a traditional publishing scenario rather than self-publishing or e-publishing or whatever, it STILL doesn't work that way. As an author, you have to market your work and yourself; we can't just leave our babies out there in the (dystopian--heh heh) woods to survive or fall on their own. We have to encourage them, and, since our writing isn't an actual person (ah, metaphors), we have to encourage others to see it (to buy it, if we're in the marketplace), instead.
Every time I go on Facebook or Twitter or wherever, every time I pass out a promotional bookmark, a business card, or a napkin with a link written on it to promote my blog or some writing of mine, I feel bad about it--and I have a pretty healthy ego. Thing is, I shouldn't feel bad about it. I wouldn't feel bad about it if I was selling Pampered Chef products or Kickstarting a new kind of e-reader cover--and other people wouldn't look at me funny if I was doing that stuff either.
It's a brand new world of marketing/self-marketing/and promotion, whether we like it or not.
And, yeah, this challenge is a different beast than all of that...or, wait, actually, it's not. In the end, we still want people to read our work, whether or not there is monetary compensation (or, in this case, being read by people with some clout). We still want our babies to grow up and thrive out there in the world.
So, in the interest of quantifying it, I propose the following: feel free to just plop a link to your story in at the end of EVERY post you make here in Teleport Us Land. Make it like an e-mail signature.
Oh, and whether you decide to do that everywhere or not, please DO put a link to your story in any comments you make on MY story. I'm planning on reading and commenting on everyone's, but I'm giving preference to people who comment on mine, and I like to think I give good, comprehensive commentary, which I might not be able to do toward the end of the month when I'm in a hurry, reading. :-)
"The Human Argument" (<--like that. ;-) )
I say we compile a list based on the prompts:
List of types of Utopias/Dystopias used:
List of most interesting scientifically plausible tech:
List of non-human character types:
So I tried my hardest to get something done but I'm not going to make the deadline. I like my story and think I can finish it this weekend. Would anyone have a problem with me posting it a couple days late? I'll be exempt from competing for the critique awards offered to the highest scoring stories. That is fine. You guys don't even have to thumbs up it or down it. I'd just like to get some good feedback to see if this thing has any potential. It's the first sci-fi I've attempted so I'd like to see what fans of the genre think. Let me know if anyone objects.
Phew! I made it just under the wire! Assuming that wire is PST and not EST...
My first time submitting someting to LitReactor and I'm looking forward to reading/reviewing a bunch of stuff this weekend.
If anyone wants to read my silly little story, it's called Outsource.
JR - I suspect the powers that will take away the ability to upload stories. If you can't get it posted for this happens, feel free to email it to me. My workshop membership lapsed and I haven't renewed it yet, but I'd love to read it. :)
I got mine uploaded in the nick of time, amazingly.
Wow, got 14 submissions dated Mars 1 (CET), which means they weren't there when I went to bed last night. I'm thinking I'll have to spend less time on LBLs and more on reading if I'll have a chance to get through every story.
Jonathan, do post it in the workshop if they close submissions altogether.
I'll bet Lit Reactor won't cut off submissions until the day officially ends at the international date line. We've got to be able to account for our contributors all over the world.
Hey, by the way! I posted a story! Shameless plug! Check it out! I'll return the favor!
One Tunguska Story
LitReactor posted over on Twitter and Facebook...open submissions officially closed in about 22 minutes (2:00 EST, 1:00 CST, 12:00 MST, 11:00 PST)
Please ignore me if nobody else feels this way because I didn't even enter this contest. But as a thought for next time, I am rating some stories and feeling like kind of a rat. I do not recognize a lot of the names. Imagine being a new writer, and you work so hard on your story and post it hopefully, and all you get is some lousy thumbs-downs, for everyone to see. Ouch! I think it would perhaps be a more positive experience if the votes could only be seen by administrators and just the winners announced. Just my opinion.
Barely made the deadline and then afterwards noticed a few spelling and punctuation errors, nay mind! Does anyone else get letter / punctuation blindness after days of writing?
Shameless plug: http://litreactor.com/events/teleport-us/bad-signal
There seems to be a lot of concern about the rating system, but so far, even on the stories that may not be to a readers taste, the comments left have been constructive. People on these boards seem genuinely supportive. I've only read one caustic remark (the story has since been withdrawn) but in defence of the person that left it, it was a really funny remark that could've been in Mystery Science Theatre 3000. The good / bad thumbs thing... It's hard on the ego but just think, even the most successful writers in the world take a kicking, so if you're serious about becoming a professional, you'll have to adapt.
Right then, time to go read some more entries.
Here's my shameless plug, because I'm feeling shameless today. :)
My story is a little noir, so if you like that kind of thing, let me know what you think. It's my first draft, so don't feel like you need to be too gentle. Red pen it to death if you are so inclined.
I've read a good baker's dozen of the submissions, and intend to read more. If you give me a review, I'll do my best to return the favor soon!
I hereby promise to read and comment on at least one story, per day, til the end of March. It would be wonderful if all of you returned the favour and I've made it real easy for you, as there's only ONE of mine to read. :
There. That seems about fair, doesn't it? :)
Even better, I've done what I can to make it humourous, (in short supply in stories I've read so far!) even if it has some nicely dark bits as well.
Still uncertain about the thumbs down. I think we all need to be a little thick skinned, when we post work on an open critique site. I'd hope though, that no-one ever gives a thumbdown without saying why, and to be honest, the same ought to be true for a thumbs up!
Gotham writers might recognise the suggestion that - thumbs up or thumbs down - you give at least one positive and one "area for improvement" in every review. Seems like good advice.
Of the ones I've read so far, I've felt pretty positive. I occasionally have whittle 30 stories down to five - this is easier, I can give thumbs up to as many as I like, and I'll do that for anything I think is more good than bad.
Looking forward to seeing how this continues. My first time on LitReactor!
Christa - I'll check yours out this week!
Liam - I got a thumbs down without any corresponding feedback. I am particularly thick skinned (years of being a lawyer seemed to have helped with that), and I just felt a bit annoyed that I had no feedback to go with it to help me improve my story. I just reminded myself that no one is obligated to give constructive feedback in this challenge... though I did put up a gentle reminder in my story synopsis saying that constructive feedback would be very much appreciated!
I'd be more concerned about my thumbs-down votes if I got alot of them without any feedback. It would make me seriously question my story and wonder what, exactly, people didn't like. But just one or two doesn't really irk me too much. I just figure that some people aren't good about telling others that they didn't like something and some aren't good at giving constructive feedback (it's a skill that needs to be cultivated, I think). I'm okay with some people not liking my story (can't please everyone), but so long as the majority say it's a good start and give me a few ideas for improvement, then I'm satisfied.
@Jess, i loved your story! I wondered about the thumb down too, i figured maybe someone disliked the message.
Just pondering - what are the legal ramifications of writing a short story and publishing it?
My story, for those of you who have had time to read it, is partly about a company called Carema.
In 2010, Sweden had a major scandal where a large part of the socialized care for the elderly had been leased out to a private company, who in the interest of the mighty shareholders and investors had been cutting corners on the quality of care quite dramatically. We're talking spending a whole week in the same adult diaper, that sort of thing. This was part of the inspiration for Call Me Tim.
When I wrote my story, I wanted a name for the evil future corporation and Carema seemed like the obvious choice. So of course, Carema is the name of my future elderly care corporation.
Is this strictly legal? In my country, it is totally off the board to be sued for writing literature (we're the proud country of the Pirate Bay) but is it the same in for instance the US?
Can you write a story where Coca-Cola poisons children in the future and get away with it?
OK, so I'm not sure if anyone is as neurotic as me, but I've create a doc with all the stories, so you can check off who you've reviewed and whose reviewed you. I'm giving myself a goal to review all active stories by month's end.
I’m really blown away by all the talent here and can't wait to read everyone's story. ~Sam
Hey there, in the spirit of shameless plugs, please give my story a shot and rate honestly. I'd love any and all constructive feedback. Lightning Bug... I've been spending a lot of time reading everybody's submission and feel free to plug your story in a response to mine. I'll be sure to review and rate yours too!
Looking forward to reading all the entries, if I can manage it!
@Klahol, it can be tricky. For the US the safe bet is to just change the name. However any factual account of real events would be protected, satire is also protected, as long as its clearly satire. Most ppl go the safe route to avoid legal badgering, big companies with lots of money can and do bring frivolous lawsuits against the little guy just to scare and cause trouble.
@Neagle, I think writers are probably one of the few "artists" who are not only comfortable, but actually find preference with using quotation marks when referring to the craft as "art".
I have to agree that the thumbs up/down system is sharp, it does more closely mimic the experience of publishing in the real world. Most books these days get read when they spread by word of mouth, so the appearence of thumbs up votes are like 4/5 star reviews on amazon.com. Yeah, unfortunately, some people do get left behind, but that's the nature of the beast, and at the end of the day, it's really more about getting critiques, honest feedback, from other writers.
so here's me: http://litreactor.com/events/teleport-us/to-the-dogs
Can someone please explain how ratings can be accessed? I appear to have a couple but I can't see what they are or comments, etc. Thanks kindly.
I pointed out a couple of typos on a story and submitted the doc back pointing them out. Is that bad etiquette since this is a contest?