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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin October 4, 2011 - 11:20am

I am making this thread as an attempt to bring a positive resource to us all, while I certainly would appreciate such a list it is not entirely for my benefit, and I hope that we can all more effectively find places to submit finished short stories and poetry.

The question of the thread is, when you have a finished short story and you are prepared to see it off, who do you send it to? I am as interested in paying as in non-paying, although to be honest most of the articles and stories I've been paid for have been more locally focused in their market so most of the sites I list are probably not going to be paid sites.

For me this is not a problem, I have this massive portfolio, more time than I know what to do with and enough food to eat, I can afford not to get paid for my writing and I feel like the non-paying sites do still help me reach an audience with my writing as well as serving to pad my resume (which was a big concern when I was sending out 8 query letters a day, but for now I am mostly interested in such markets for the former purpose, some place where I can put a short story and the bio has a mention of my novel).

Fear of Monkeys: http://twinenterprises.com/the_fear_of_monkeys/submission_guidelines.htm

Non-Paying

Fear of Monkeys works primarily with "Politically and Socially Concious" writing, so its pretty much a niche market. I don't know how many of you are familiar with AdBusters, but Fear of Monkeys is a low budget version of AdBusters, with more fiction and slightly less DaDa. My writings there go on my resume, but I don't know how well-reputed they are in the literary world, I suspect not much. For one, "Politically and Socially Concious" writing doesn't neccesarrily get top billing these days and also sometimes when I read the descriptions they put for my stories I wonder if they understood them, which might be indicative of a suboptimal evaluation procedure.

Splash of Red: http://splashofred.squarespace.com/submissions/

Non-Paying

Sadly I am less experienced with Splash of Red, and what I can tell you is this, if you were to write your first Fantasy story, and it is some sort of middle-fantasy weirdness that serves as a parable for Trotskyist philosophy, well they wouldn't be interested in something like that. That story is a mess in any event, keeps me clear of fantasy for the immediate future. But if you would like to try your luck Splash of Red is good with poetry and their rejection letters are very polite.

Blood Lotus: http://www.bloodlotusjournal.com/p/submit.html

Non-Paying

Another magazine that has never done anything but reject me (the ezines I have mostly gotten published in have since gone terribly bankrupt, places like Apathy is Easy and changingthetimes.co.uk, which is probably not a ringing endorsement of my prose). Passed on Do Unto Others, but now that I realize that I'm probably going to find something newer to fire off at them. (Wow, this process is extremely nice, going through my sentbox and updating this submission graph in my notebook, I hope that you can also benefit),

Dark Sky Magazine http://darkskymagazine.submishmash.com/submit

Non-Paying

Good turnaround, efficient editors. 3k word limit.

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This of course does not include contests or my experiences with Asimov's, but Asimov' in't an eZine anyways, and in any event I was hoping to illuminate new territory and to be honest when I first started thinking about literary magazines Asimov's was personally the only one I knew about because it's Asimov's and I assume that everyone is always working on a "sci fi story good enough for Asimov's." If that isn't on your writer bucket list I don't know what is.

I also have submitted to madhattersreview, but their submissions are closed for the rest of the year. 

Your turn. What magazines do you submit to?

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Brandon from KCMO is reading Made to Break October 4, 2011 - 11:23am

The best thing to do is to go to duotrope.  It's basically a masterlist of all this stuff.

http://www.duotrope.com/

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Nathan from Louisiana (South of New Orleans) is reading Re-reading The Rust Maidens by Gwendolyn Kiste, The Bone Weaver's Orchard by Sarah Read October 4, 2011 - 5:04pm

Splash of Red is one of my favorite mags -I would love to be published through them. Check out the story "Red Barn People" by Hunter Liguore. That's on their front page right now, I believe. 

Hey, nkwilczy -what was the response time for them? 

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin October 4, 2011 - 5:17pm

It looks like it was about 17 days.

Admittedly I haven't been as good about doing actual submissions lately as I should have been, but now seems a good a time as any to try to remedy that.

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Alex Kane from west-central Illinois is reading Dark Orbit October 4, 2011 - 7:14pm

Here are the places I've submitted my work to:

  • F&SF
  • Weird Tales
  • Electric Literature
  • Asimov's
  • Dark Discoveries
  • Writers of the Future (contest)
  • Strange Horizons
  • Clarkesworld
  • Lightspeed
  • Ideomancer
  • Brain Harvest
  • Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine
  • Bull Spec
  • Analog Science Fiction & Fact
  • Abyss & Apex
  • The Pedestal Magazine
  • GUD: Greatest Uncommon Denominator
  • Every Day Fiction
  • Daily Science Fiction
  • Apex Magazine
  • Electric Velocipede
  • Pseudopod
  • Shimmer
  • Orson Scott Card's Intergalactic Medicine Show
  • Tor.com
  • Shock Totem
  • M-Brane SF
  • GigaNotoSaurus
  • Dark Highlands Anthology
  • Ray Gun Revival
  • Crossed Genres
  • Contrary
  • Basement Stories
  • Redstone Science Fiction
  • Nil Desperandum
  • Cosmos
  • Tin House
  • Digital Science Fiction

It's probably worth noting that they all pay -- many of them, professional rates (5 cents/word or more). I'm one of those writers who preach the gospel of Harlan Ellison: The writer should never work for free.

"Payment in exposure" is bullshit. Sorry. You want a career in writing, you have to have standards about who you want printing your work. That standard can change over time -- and some non-paying and token-paying markets are really great publications -- but you can't possibly make a living if you're never getting paid.

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin October 5, 2011 - 9:39pm

You don't have to apologize to me for calling bullshit on "Exposure is payment," and I never claimed it was. I simply have enough food and a warm place to sleep and I care for little else in monetary terms (To quote the Slimmest of the Shadiest, I don't give a fuck). I also have a ton of time on my hands, and a massive portfolio, so I am able to avoid "simultaneous submissions" by simply submitting different stories all over the place.

In fact, let's be honest, these paid magazines have much more inventive to actually publicize and promote their stuff, they get higher exposure. When I get something published on Fear of Monkeys I know that only a dozen people will read it. That small number has its own peculiar advantages, but they hardly outweigh the advantages of widespread exposure of the sort that paid magazines must provide you just to perpetuate their business model.

Which is why I made this thread, my present markets are insufficient. I appreciate your contributions.

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Alex Kane from west-central Illinois is reading Dark Orbit October 5, 2011 - 10:04pm

Oh yeah, that wasn't aimed at you specifically. Just writers in general; we're all on the same side. And you're spot-on about the business model. It's evolving, and the best ones are staying afloat while others are rightly falling into oblivion. Glad to help out when it comes to finding reliable markets (sometimes you're lucky to ever get a response), and especially when it comes to ones that are well-publicized and pay well.

There are a lot of themed anthologies cropping up out of thin air -- I've seen so-called "small presses" posting submission calls for upwards of 50 anthology projects simultaneously. And the one I'm thinking of offered no payment to contributors. Not even an author's copy -- just "exposure only." To me, that's just exploitation.

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks October 6, 2011 - 4:49am

Alex,

Any luck with Weird Tales? I submitted something to them back in July but haven't heard back yet. I figure I'd give it till mid-October then just send it elsewhere. But did you happen to notice it taking a longer time than expected to hear back from them? I understand they're a "pro market", but still... it's been like four months.

-Bill

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Americantypo from Philadelphia is reading The Bone Clocks October 6, 2011 - 4:52am

Plus I think "exsposure" as payment is sort of a right of passage for a lot of people here. You start there then move up to paying zines, and hopefully pro after that, if they even still exist. I don't think its bullshit, but it is something we should also eventually work our way up from.

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Brandon from KCMO is reading Made to Break October 6, 2011 - 6:03am

@Americantypo

You're absolutely right about this.  Those little ezines and webmags should be the bread and butter for those just starting out in the game.  Having something like The Paris Review or Ploughshares as one of your first publications--although it would be nice, is going to fucking crazy difficult.

Pros get paid.  Pros get printed.  There's no denying that.

We all start out at the bottom rung though.  My advice to anyone just starting out would be to get some of that exposure, at least for their first few pieces.  

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Alex Kane from west-central Illinois is reading Dark Orbit October 6, 2011 - 6:51am

"Any luck with Weird Tales? I submitted something to them back in July but haven't heard back yet."

Bill, it's kind of a long story, but in short: Weird Tales was just purchased by a new publisher, who fired all the existing staff and replaced them with his own people. He is now the editor. From what I hear, he's a cool guy and suited for the job, but they recently posted on their website that any writer who hasn't received a response should consider their story "returned," and that they're closed to submissions until further notice.

A lot of people are really upset about this, as I was, but an e-friend of mine had sold Ann VanderMeer not one, but two stories -- his first professional sales -- and so far, they haven't appeared in the magazine. With this new editorship, he's not sure they ever will.

So send the story elsewhere. Who knows when they'll reopen.

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Mike Mckay is reading God's Ashtray October 7, 2011 - 9:40am

@ Alex J. Kane

If you were to pick the 10 best sites to submit any work. What would they be?

 

This can apply to anyone else reading this as well. 

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Alex Kane from west-central Illinois is reading Dark Orbit October 7, 2011 - 9:58am

Depends on what you write, mostly. Who are your biggest influences? What genre do you best fit into?

One method I've used to find new, additional places to send my stuff is by going to the websites of my favorite authors and looking at their bibliography pages to find all the magazines, anthologies, and e-zines that have published their work. Oftentimes you'll run into a few that don't take unagented or unsolicited submissions, or markets that don't exist anymore, but usually you'll also find some new markets you hadn't heard of that you can send stuff to.

Anthologies probably comprise the biggest chunk of the short fiction market right now, but they also generally pay less well than magazines, or are invite-only. If you can find anthologies that pay, and for which your work seems to fit the guidelines, they're the ones who need fiction now. Magazines are fewer, pay better, and so are resultantly the hardest to break into.

"Fight Club" in its original short story form was first published in a one-shot literary fiction anthology.

I've sold eight pieces of fiction, and all of them were to anthologies. One of them paid $327.00.

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies October 27, 2011 - 8:11am

Here's my current list, forgive the formatting, just cut and pasted it from Duotrope.com

3 AM Magazine TEMP CLOSED   Update
751 Magazine   Update
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Alaska Quarterly Review   Update
Albedo One   Update
Alfred Hitchcock's Mystery Magazine   Update
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Bat City Review   Update
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Berkeley Fiction Review TEMP CLOSED   Update
Big Lucks   Update
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Black Lawrence Press   Update
Black Static   Update
Black Warrior Review   Update
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Bradley Sands from Boston is reading Greil Marcus's The History of Rock 'N' Roll in Ten Songs October 27, 2011 - 8:38am

I'm pretty confused why most of the markets people are listing are print journals since "Ezine" is in the title of the thread, but ok...

I worked as an unpaid assistant editor for Weird Tales for a little while before Ann Vandermeer was its editor.

Probably my favorite Ezine is The Dream People, which publishes surreal and absurd stuff of a slightly experimental nature and pays contributors the cost of a martini.

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies October 27, 2011 - 10:38am

i didn't want to limit my response to online places, bradley. and i also didn't have the time to separate out my long list there either. both print and online have their benefits.

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin October 27, 2011 - 11:17am

I don't have any problem with print journals, I appreciate the list. Thanks. Seems to be a lot of "closed" ones though (mostly "temp closed" though so I suppose that's fine)

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Bradley Sands from Boston is reading Greil Marcus's The History of Rock 'N' Roll in Ten Songs October 27, 2011 - 11:47am

I like Black Clock a lot, and Steve Erickson its Editor-in-Chief (who is one of my favorite authors). And it's probably the only journal that's associated with a school that I like (I think Pank is associated with a college as well and I've heard good things and enjoyed a few stories that they published that were read by their authors during live readings, but I've never actually read an issue).

But it seems like Black Clock might only have an open submissions period of two weeks per year (I submitted this year and am waiting for a response). Or maybe they have other two week open submissions periods that I'm unfamiliar with.

I just checked and Black Clock's website says it pays contributors "a token stipend when the magazine can afford it." Perhaps the pay rate is a sliding scale considering some of the contributors are big names. And Pank doesn't mention anything about payment, so I assume they don't. But I don't really care about these things since both journals have a wide readership and just as long they hook me up with a contributor copy if they publish my work. As far as publications with small readerships that don't pay, I would be hesitant to submit my work unless it was something that I had spent little time on.

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Richard from St. Louis is reading various anthologies October 27, 2011 - 4:36pm

BC is amazing. Erickson is great. I think, like many places that are attached to universities, they are closed part of the time, usually the summer. Sometimes more often.

Sure, it's great to get paid, but even if you get .05 a word x 3000 word story, that's only $150. It's great to get some exposure, and if you're not published, exposure is more important IMO than pay. Getting your work out there, building an audience, getting some recognition, that all matters too. Especially when the top markets are all under 1% acceptance rate. That means you have to be THE BEST story out of ONE HUNDRED submissions. How insane is that? So, online, print, send your work to places that you really dig. Of course, aim high, hit up TNY, TPR, Harper's, whatever turns you on. But it's rough when you send a story to 40 places, all with a 1% acceptance rate, and get rejected by all of the, to not start doubting your talent.

Novels, anthologies, ebooks, there are lots of ways to get your work out there in addition to online and print journals. Just start reading, hanging out, seeing what's cool, and send your work. That's how I've met so many awesome people, such as Bradley here.