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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 10, 2012 - 6:49pm

Are you a robot? If so what kind?

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts June 10, 2012 - 8:09pm

Bad Sexbot.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 10, 2012 - 10:03pm

No! You toasters must die!

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 1:41am

Panda it's good to have you back. I would say Borg, but it doesn't seem fun. Perhaps a Cylon 

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 11, 2012 - 1:49am

I want to be a hot blonde Cylon, for reasons only known to myself...

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 1:52am

 Wow. Um. Hmm. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 1:55am

I have always thought that if we actually develop AI, it'll be the end of man. Not that one achievement, but I am positive the machines will rise up. Artificial intelligence dangerous in all seriousness. 

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 11, 2012 - 1:55am

I never said male or female.

 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 1:57am

Oh yeah...hmm

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 4:05am

"I have always thought that if we actually develop AI, it'll be the end of man."

I think this is funny.  Like it was your idea.

But no, I'm not a robot.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 4:35am

I've always thought that if we develop computers that can truly think for themselves, that will be the end of man.

Terminator, I, Robot, The Matrix, etc., were all ideas stolen from what I have always thought.  I thought them before Isaac Asimov did.  I met Agent Smith one time.  I tried to kick his ass, but it was freakin impossible.  He could be the end of man. 

If this kind of thing keeps up the only things left to talk about man and his futility will be those stupid thinking machines.  And birds.  Birds will be there, too.

What is AI?

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 4:40am

Yeah about this, I don't recall ever saying I came up with the idea. I do think it is valid however. 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 4:47am

I don't recall ever saying I came up with the idea.

I'm glad you didn't say that, because it wouldn't be true.  I came up with the idea.  In the thirties.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 4:49am

Wow. So you're immortal? Good to know. What can kill you? 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 4:55am

Booze.  Well, it can't kill me, but it will make me pretty ineffective.  And heavy traffic.

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GaryP from Denver is reading a bit of this and that June 11, 2012 - 5:09am

How do we know we're not the robots and that we rose up and destroyed our dinosaur creators?

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 5:17am

"So you're immortal?"

I assumed he meant the 1930s.  Which was less than 100 years ago.  What am I missing? 

Wait, is my grandmother immortal????

Did anyone ever watch King of the Hill?  Matt reminds me of Peggy.  Spa-Peggy and meatballs. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 5:21am

Well if he's not immortal, then he looks really good for his age. 

 

This seems like a pointless debate. So we're going to pick apart each word posted? I'm bored now. 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 5:29am

He looks really good.

Thank you.  And I agree.  But you, the only way to properly round off my good looks and animal magnetism would be if you would teach me how I can have hair like yours.

I don't want your hair.  That would be creepy.  I just want my hair to act like your hair.

Tell me your secret.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 5:52am

"So we're going to pick apart each word posted?"

I'm so inclined, yes. 

"Tell me your secret."

I hope it has to do with something he invented.  Like shampoo or hair gel.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 6:04am

The internet?  Wait, no.  That was Al Gore.  He invented the internet and global warming, so we know neither of these things has anything to do with Matt's hair.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 6:19am

Thank goodness.  I was worried global warming might effect it. 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 7:35am

I just want my hair to act like your hair."

Obamacare. I don't even have to think anymore, friendly neighborhood government doctors do the thinking for me. It did wonders for my hair. 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 11, 2012 - 7:46am

I don't even have to think anymore, friendly neighborhood government doctors machines do the thinking for me.

Yes!  This is the opiate of my dreams!  Obama(Romney)care is Utopia is Facebook is Skynet.  The machines are not rising.  They already did that and we missed it.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 7:46am

"Obama(Romney)care"

Thank you.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 7:53am

Who said Wallstreet McGee was any better?

 

The machines are not rising.  They already did that and we missed it."

 

 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 8:10am

WOW.

FACT: President Obama has signed 21 tax cuts to help middle class families.

Cut salaries for 65 bailout executives.

Banks have repaid 75% of TARP funds, bringing the cost down to $89B as of June 2010

Dodd-Frank (DF) Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, the biggest financial reform law since the Great Depression. 

Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010

Established a credit card bill of rights.

Reformed credit card swipe fees

Enacted largest reform of student aid in 40 years

Jobless rates dropped in 34 states and DC 

 

I could go on and on.  None of those things are flashy I guess.  And they don't make a cute picture.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 8:22am

Fact: I made a poll for you put your facts in. Also, I'm not sure you can attribute any of that to President Obama. Most of the bills listed were introduced by the Senate and Congress. President Obama simply signed   (the heavily watered down versions) into law. 

 

Of course they have since been neutered by corporate lobbying. 

 

I CAN tell you one thing President Obama did introduce and sign into law...National Defense Authorization Act. Not only does it allow the government ot suspend habeas corpus and several other constitutional rights, it also allows the government to hold you in indefinite detention with executive approval on any number of definitions of "terrorist" as set forth by Justice Department. 

One of these would be: Having more than six days food in your house. Look it up. It's there. 

Not to mention keeping things like the Patriot Act in place and killing US citizens overseas without due process or committing US forces to a foreign theater of war without Congressional oversight or approval, something his own party talked about impeaching him for. 

 

 

LINK

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 8:25am

" I made a poll for you put your facts in."
 

FACT: Making the poll somehow made me care less.  Not sure why, but it did.  I refuse to vote in that poll.  Because voter apathy is killing this nation! 

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 11, 2012 - 8:26am

I refuse to vote in that poll.  Because voter apathy is killing this nation!"

HAHAHA Fact: that made no sense. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 11, 2012 - 8:27am

It does if you think about it.  And assume my motives are not pure.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 11, 2012 - 8:57am

Unless you think that Nader could get his 5% of the popular vote needed to get federal funding if there was less voter apathy, and the green party gettng federal funding would bring about some important change then no not really. 

Now onto more serious questions. Why does everyone think that AI will care what humans are doing? I don't mean that it'll love us, if these things exist in computeres on cyber space why on earth will they give a dang what we do in the real world? Maybe if we make them robots or something, but for the most part even then I'm not sure they'll have the emotions needed to rise up.

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like June 11, 2012 - 9:36am

^ that's a good question.  How an AI would react depends on your definition of intelligence (among other things.)

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 11, 2012 - 10:10am

This is about much important issues, robots.

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Grigori Black from US is reading Radium Girls by Amanda Gowin June 11, 2012 - 10:55pm

I am definitely not a robot.

I do remember the robot uprising that nearly destroyed humanity. Fortunately, scientists had been secretly experimenting with energy technology and accidently discovered how to create temporal rifts. The problem was these rifts were highly unstable and only lasted a few seconds and inorganic material broke down rapidly if it passed through a rift and... what the? Where are my clothes? What year is it? Shit.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 12, 2012 - 12:35am

For some reason Grigori I believe you.

You're one crazy dude.

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Grigori Black from US is reading Radium Girls by Amanda Gowin June 12, 2012 - 1:18am

Eh, being a little bit crazy keeps me (relatively) sane. I remember losing my mind once, but I was too paranoid to ask anyone for help. Thankfully, I got better.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 12, 2012 - 1:49am

Black! Where ya been!?

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Grigori Black from US is reading Radium Girls by Amanda Gowin June 12, 2012 - 4:31am

Black! Where ya been!?

 

Busy. Life decided to kick me in the teeth. I have 160-240 hours of 'professional development I need to complete. By September 01. This is on top of the 100+ hours of certification I'm working through. Just got back from my (Delayed) honeymoon. Prepping to move to New York. So yeah... a little busy.

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 12, 2012 - 5:57am

Just got back from my (Delayed) honeymoon.

I must have missed this. Where'd you go?

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Grigori Black from US is reading Radium Girls by Amanda Gowin June 12, 2012 - 6:38am

Salzburg/Vienna. We were supposed to go last year, but a cancer diagnosis threw a wrench in the works.

 

Back on topic: I'm still not a robot, but my wife has been pretty Stepford lately. I'll have to do a thorough examination later.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 13, 2012 - 4:13am

Don't look a robot servant in the mouth.

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Michael J. Riser from El Cerrito, CA (originally), now Fort Worth, TX is reading The San Veneficio Canon - Michael Cisco, The Croning - Laird Barron, By the Time We Leave Here, We'll Be Friends - J. David Osborne June 13, 2012 - 7:44pm

I'm not a robot, but sometimes I wish I was one. It would be nice to understand math for once.

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GaryP from Denver is reading a bit of this and that June 14, 2012 - 4:06am

Why does everyone think that all robots are good at math? That's just a crass stereotype.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 14, 2012 - 9:38am

Gary P is a robot.

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GaryP from Denver is reading a bit of this and that June 14, 2012 - 9:47am

<Note to self: Panda knows too much.>

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated June 14, 2012 - 10:52am

Oh Gary we all know. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you but you have been out the metal closest a long time. We are just waiting to kick of the purge of the Cylons because humans are cruel. Sorry.

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GaryP from Denver is reading a bit of this and that June 14, 2012 - 11:50am

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 15, 2012 - 5:16am

Gary tried to assimilate me. No means no. 

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Chris Davis from Indiana is reading A Feast of Snakes by Harry Crews June 15, 2012 - 5:36am

"I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 15, 2012 - 5:50am

"So maybe I don't know what the Civil War was, or who invented the helicopter even though I own one, but I did beat The Legend of Zelda before I could walk."