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Brian Ingham from Stillwater Oklahoma is reading There is No Year by. Blake Butler December 16, 2011 - 12:43am

@Chester- I am not a member of the workshop at this moment. I recently lost my job so I'm pretty broke at the moment, and any help would be amazing bc I know I'm missing out on so much not being a part of it. as soon as I get the $9 I will join, actually, the first $45 I get will be put aside specifically so i can join.

@aliensoul- My story is definetly a psychotic love story, hybristophilia is a great subject for that. Stockholm Syndrome would also be a great route for a psychotic love story.

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Brian Ingham from Stillwater Oklahoma is reading There is No Year by. Blake Butler December 16, 2011 - 1:00am

@nkwilczy-great story man! Brilliant concept too, can't wait to read more of it! Hope I can get the workshop problem figured out soon so I can read everyones stories.

@raelyn, Renee, averydoll, and wickedvoodoo- Thanks for helping me out! After reading your posts as well as going back over aliensouls descriptions of what he's looking for, I'm feeling very inspired.

I will be posting the 1st draft of my story hopefully by the end of the weekend/early next week here for everyone to check out, and if needed I can send it in an email directly to you @aliensoul. Best of luck to everyone else working on submissions for this anthology! Oh, and sorry for the double posting...

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 16, 2011 - 4:58am

@Brian: I am working on getting you a pass for the workshop. Please hold tight.

The fact that you are reading Blake Butler has a lot to do with it.

In other words, you can't be half bad.

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Renfield from Hell is reading 20th Century Ghosts December 16, 2011 - 5:16am

I haven't gone over the whole thread, but if anyone is not in the workshop they can PM me their story for a critique (just be sure to give me an Author's Agenda of what you think needs help and I will try be in depth.) Are the stories in the workshop titled with Psych Antho or summat? I will try to review as many as I can.

I'd like to be in an anthology with you guys but I've devoted all my writing time to other projects at the moment. God luck and good speed gentleman, look forward to reading.

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Jay.SJ from London is reading Warmed and Bound December 16, 2011 - 9:35am

Done the first 500 words today, might make it up to 1000. Should get at least a first draft before xmas.

 

It's about a guy who thinks that he is the star of a reality TV show, and a friend finds him and discovers he's crazy and tries to give him an intervention. Unfortunately for her, he is so psychotic that he sees her as a undercover agent that's been sent from a rival TV network to sabotage him and his fantastic ratings. I'm thinking it will end with him killing her or something, him believing it's live on national air and will boost his ratings.

I don't really like serial killer stories but I think this could be kinda cool.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 16, 2011 - 10:14am

@Chester-- Hanging out in Oxford for the Holidays. Love being in the UK--hate the flight/jet lag. Did get to sit next to an absolutely insane woman on the flight, who I was honestly surprised didn't get arrested when we landed, so that was fun.

Anyway, no, I am not one to reign things in, if anything, some times I worry I handle really serious things with too light a hand, we'll see what comes of it. 

@Danny--my goal with this story is to really highlight the emotional trauma that comes from living with/being involved with a sociopath. One of the things I read in my preliminary research was that the people in a sociopath's life fall into two categories--victims and accomplices (of course, the accomplices usually become victims at some point) and I am trying my damndest to capture that. If I get it right, the mental trauma the humans in the story suffer will make the stuff that goes on with the pet dog look tame.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 16, 2011 - 10:21am

@Renee - i am excited to see what you do with it.  Also terrified.  But that's a good thing.....

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Hetch Litman from Ojai, Ca. is reading Wise Blood by Flannery OConnor December 16, 2011 - 10:32am

Sorry I'm late. Any psychosis open? I'd love to try my hand at this.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 16, 2011 - 10:56am

You could do Cotard's syndrome.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 16, 2011 - 12:25pm

@Avery--haha, I debated not even explaining it, lest I fail miserably. Here's hoping I get it right, now that I've gone and said something.

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Hetch Litman from Ojai, Ca. is reading Wise Blood by Flannery OConnor December 16, 2011 - 6:57pm

@aliensoul77 said: "You could do Cotard's syndrome."

 

Woo. That looks like a tough one but I'd like to give it a shot. Jan 10th for the rough, huh? I'll do it.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 17, 2011 - 10:48am

@Renee - Forgive me for intruding.  I've been feeling kind of bad that my story was treading a bit to your chosen disorder (APD).  Your story is about sociopaths, and it seems that mine is about a psychopaths, because it seems like with schizophrenia (how not all schizophrenics aren't the same) that not all people with APD are the same either.  I wasn't originally aware that the two words (psychopath and sociopath) were interchangeable.  Perhaps you've already stumbled upon this information, but there is a difference that most people - including me - aren't/weren't aware of.

During my usual bout of research mining, I stumbled over a website that stated a bit of the difference:

I use the term psychopath for an individual with many of the characteristics of Antisocial Personality Disorder who is dysfunctional and violent and who expresses their violence physically (eg assault, damage to property, etc); I use the term sociopath (socialised psychopath) for an individual with many of the characteristics of Antisocial Personality Disorder who expresses their violence psychologically (eg constant criticism, sidelining, exclusion, undermining etc). Psychopathic APD people are usually, but not exclusively, associated with low socio-economic status and urban settings and tend to be of lower intelligence. Sociopaths are usually highly intelligent, have higher socio-economic status and often come from "normal", "nice", "middle-class" families.

I dug a little more into the difference and I'm finding some really interesting stuff.  Now I'm really interested in reading your story so I can spot the differences between your character and mine.

 

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson December 17, 2011 - 10:56am

For psychopath research Gary Ridgeway or John Wayne Gacy and for sociopath Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. All of them have personalities suited to both your pieces.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 17, 2011 - 1:13pm

Okay, I have a pile of one-month free trial memberships to the LitReactor Workshop for participants of the Psychosis Anthology who are not currently enrolled but would take the opportunity to go in there with their submissions as well as review other participants submissions as they post them.

Of course this gives you all access premium membership benefits and you can browse the plethora of other Reactors' submissions as well. But I would hope since you are being comp'd that you would focus most of your efforts on assisting those involved with this psychotic project.

PM me asap if you want in.

And you better Friend Request me while you are at it.

So far:

Raelyn

Brian Ingham

*Charles King: you expressed interest, but said you didn't have time to do the reviews. Upon signing up you get a free submission to the workshop. But it would be great to have you chime in on a few reviews. Let me know.

 

Anyone else?

 

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 17, 2011 - 2:27pm

Me me me!

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 17, 2011 - 2:27pm

Kiddin!

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 17, 2011 - 2:45pm

If you have a clone Liana.

I will wait through tomorrow for anyone who wants onboard. We will shoot for this Monday to activate, then y'all can join us over where the real Litreactor Party takes place. 

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Hetch Litman from Ojai, Ca. is reading Wise Blood by Flannery OConnor December 17, 2011 - 5:55pm

Been working on the outline, and character sketches for Cotard's Delusion this afternoon. This is some heavy, dark shit but I am very excited that this is the one I got. I cannot wait to get writing. This is the first time I am doing an amazingly detailed development before jumping in and starting to write but it almost had to be done with all the research. I think this has the capacity to be a very good story now lets just hope I have the chops. I have Monday through Thursday next week off and my plan is to finish a 5,000-word draft in that timeframe. At the moment, though, I am just focused on the research/development.  I'll decide on whether to write in first or third later and if I can't, then I may do on of each and see how it shakes out in the end.

 

 

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 17, 2011 - 7:05pm

@ Kristin: I'm glad we did! In fact, I kept talking myself out of submitting something, and Chester kept talking me back into it. Welcome to the club!

@ Chester: I hope I do.

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Jay.SJ from London is reading Warmed and Bound December 17, 2011 - 11:22pm

Don't know how you sorted this out, Chester, but really nice of you to do.

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Brian Ingham from Stillwater Oklahoma is reading There is No Year by. Blake Butler December 17, 2011 - 11:54pm

I really don't know what to say Chester except Thank You. Hopefully someday I'm in a position to do something for you...as soon as I get a paycheck of some sorts I will definetly be making a donation of some kind to this website as well as signing up for the 6 month workshop trial.

Again, thank you Chester. Best Christmas present.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 18, 2011 - 1:09am

Chester, you are truly a scholar and a gentleman.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 9:07am

@Bek that's really interesting, I found a different article trying to draw the line between psychopaths and sociopaths, and what that article said was that the terms are often interchangable, but the difference was that psychopaths are the result of something more congenital where sociopaths are the result of things that have happened in their lives. 

@David--good to know, because I did base a lot of my research around Bundy, as he was known to be very gentlemanly and one of those "you would have never guessed!" types. (Sidenote: is anyone else been made aware of the "Ted-heads"? He has a whole group of rabidly devoted fangirls, which is almost as disturbing as the crimes he committed).

 

The good news, I suppose, is that my story is more focused on the psychological effects, and not the physical ones, so hopefully I get it right, both technically and story-wise.

 

And Chester--that is really awesome! It is good to know no one will be left out.

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 18, 2011 - 9:24am

Yes, Chester, you are truly the spirit of Christmas-Slash-Other-Holidays. Not only are you generous, but I'm assuming you must be very persuasive...

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 18, 2011 - 9:40am

I hate to say it, but Chester's probably a sociopath.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 10:11am

^^Haha.

 

 

Okay, so here's a weird problem to have. My story is growing like the Blob right now. I am at almost 5,300 words and probably need at least 500 more to wrap it up. I was wondering what I would have to do to get some people to promise in advance to take it on in the workshop and help me figure out what needs to go?

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. December 18, 2011 - 10:19am

I'll help Renee.

And I think Ted-heads and all the other serial killer groupies are more fascinating than the actual serial killers.  There has to be a diagnosis for them.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 18, 2011 - 10:19am

Renee - you just have to ask!  :) 

I'll review it for you.  

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 10:21am

Ah, thanks! I hope to have it up in a couple hours--no idea what sort of time that is in the US right now, I am in a complete fog after jet lag and attending a party last night.

 

@Bryan--that's what I was thinking, too! There has got to be a name for what makes people cling on to obviously "bad" people and decide they "love" them. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 18, 2011 - 10:30am

The name for that is low self-esteem I think. 

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 18, 2011 - 10:47am

What does that say about the Chester groupies?...

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 11:11am

There is something much deeper going on with the Chester groupies...

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 18, 2011 - 11:19am

Chester is my molestor!

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 18, 2011 - 11:19am

molester*

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson December 18, 2011 - 11:50am

@Renee
Have you read Stranger beside me yet? I haven't got a chance to yet but I'm sure it would be great for you if your basing it off of Ted. He's the craziest of the serial killers, Dahmer may have ate young men but he was a surprisingly gentle man. Intriguing these most fucked up of individuals are is it not? I'm watching star wars.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 12:25pm

I have not read it yet. I tried reading The Sociopath Next Door and it was written so poorly I wanted to tear my hair out, I didn't stumble on The Stranger Beside Me until I really needed to get in gear with my story. Speaking of: I'm having the Husband look at it to see if he can give me any ideas on what to strip and then I am throwing it into the workshop, consequences be damned. It is way too fucking long (6,374 words).

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 1:58pm

Here it is, still just over 6k words. Thanks in advance: http://litreactor.com/workshop/sub/the-thing-about-finn

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 18, 2011 - 2:07pm

The Thing about Finn.

I will get on it tonight. Good job posting Renee. 

Hate to say it, but I love jet lag. It generally means I am somewhere else. Hope you are having fun across the pond. That's a barrel-load of lag from the left coast.

@Rebecca: When I confided in you, I thought you could keep a secret. Now all the Christmas stalking is going to seem strange.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 2:09pm

Jet lag is much easier when you only have your own to worry about--dealing with toddler-jet lag is a different animal. We are managing to have a good time, though.

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. December 18, 2011 - 3:32pm

Okay I feel left out so I'll do a story if you guys will have me. I'll do: Jumping Lumberjack of Maine. David suggested it to me and I like the idea.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 5:17pm

Upon Googling, it appears to be Jumping Frenchmen of Maine, not lumberjacks. It also appears to be fucking insane. I say do it.

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. December 18, 2011 - 5:55pm

Alright awesome. I'll start the first draft tonight.

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson December 18, 2011 - 6:32pm

Well i have no idea where I got lumberjacks but you're right Renee. My mind tends to get mixed up.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 6:49pm

@David--according to Wiki, the phenom was found mostly with lumberjacks, but also in other Frenchmen in the small community, so I figure that's where it came from.

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. December 18, 2011 - 6:51pm

I've got around 500 words so far and I'm having a hard time figuring out where to take the story to make it longer.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 6:54pm

How are you doing with setting? The small bit I read about it made it seem like the perfect psychosis to make the setting a character in itself.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 18, 2011 - 6:54pm

Welcome back Dakota.

Fuck yeah, the Jumping Frenchmen looks excellent. That echolalia symptom could be really fun lyrically. Good find David.

@Renee:

Traveling with toddlers is an adventure I wish to revisit no time soon. Yeah, anything toddlery can be challenging.

Ok, I am going into the Workshop to tackle that monster.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 6:55pm

Thanks for the sympathy and in advance for the review.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 18, 2011 - 6:56pm

It's three am there. Jet lag indeed.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books December 18, 2011 - 6:57pm

Two am, but yeah.