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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 13, 2011 - 8:02pm

Does she help him wash his hair?

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 13, 2011 - 8:02pm

Please feel free to use it! I look forward to reading what you come up with.

 

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson December 13, 2011 - 8:06pm

@raelyn
Is that sort of behavior munchausen? I thought it was an obsession with being sick but I've never really looked into it so I don't know much. Either way it sounds like it'll be a good story. You might like the idea of her doing the whole breast feeding and diaper changing if you want her to just be completely nuts.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 13, 2011 - 8:08pm

@Chester, I lifted the idea from a study I read by a psychologist in the same situation, although his sociopath roommate just screwed people out of drug money and borrowed money without returning it. I just loved the irony of the pyshologist being in that position and had to grow it into something more. And, being honest, I lifted the dog idea from a disturbing story about a family member.

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 13, 2011 - 8:10pm

David, I'm doing munchausen syndrome by proxy. It's a bit different than standard munchausen in that the sick person makes people around him/her sick. The motivation is usually the same: attention, hence the similar name. 

I'm inspired to continue writing now! 

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 13, 2011 - 8:11pm

Oh and Chester, the most she does is help him dry off and get out of the tub (at the child's request). She's needy, not a pedo!

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 13, 2011 - 8:13pm

"She's needy, not a pedo! "

Good call! 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 13, 2011 - 8:20pm

Best out of context line from LitReactor ever "She's needy, not a pedo!"

 

Anyway, reading all the ideas and looking at the drafts in the workshop is both extremely exciting and a bit intimidating, there are a lot of amazing stories flying around in here.

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 13, 2011 - 8:19pm

Do I get an achievement now? :D

And I agree about being a bit intimidated. In a good way of course. I find I write better when there's higher stakes. In my mind I feel that if my story is crappy I've let everyone here down. (Gosh I really am pretentious). 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 13, 2011 - 8:21pm

I am the opposite, Raelyn--I am an egotistical, vain, over confident bitch in almost every aspect of my life, but when I get around other writers I always feel like someone is going to notice the "faker" standing in the corner and tell me to GTFO.

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 13, 2011 - 8:24pm

Ha! I was worried about that when I took Mark's class. Then, on my first assignment he complimented my writing and gave me an ego boost. (Maybe too big of an ego boost, and my big head will bring me tubbling down a cliff).

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 13, 2011 - 8:28pm

Münchausen by proxy is twisted, it always makes me think of that scene in Sixth Sense.

edit: insert 'The' before Sixth Sense.

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 13, 2011 - 9:27pm

Just read Averydoll's submission. Great, great stuff! I'm absolutely terrified to have a child now. 

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 13, 2011 - 10:02pm

Haha, I have one (a child) and it's not so bad. Many women do suffer from varying degrees of PPD, but it's not the overwhelming norm in childbearing, and, because the stigma is lifting and doctors are more aware, it is much easier to treat and deal with.

All that said--the story scared the fuck out of me. 

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Man eats Datura. Man eats shit.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones December 13, 2011 - 10:04pm

dammit, so i have to buy back into the workshop? all this tempting and teasing...

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Hetch Litman from Ojai, Ca. is reading Wise Blood by Flannery OConnor December 13, 2011 - 10:22pm

I cant believe I missed this. I want in. 

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 14, 2011 - 4:38am

Yeah, I'd say my character is not the "norm".  And half of her problem is that she refuses to seek help.  She's stuck in her own head and no one is lifting her out of there.  Her husband is right!  She SHOULD get out of bed!  And when she's with a doctor who could help her, she's all ready made up her mind. 

So the moral of the story is, get out of bed.  ??  Or there is no moral. 

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 14, 2011 - 5:01am

Pick a disorder, Hetch.
@Raelyn--I'm just curious where you will take the story. Usually it involves poisoning or keeping a child sick for sympathy or being able to take care of them. There are many directions you could go.
@Renee--Please tell me you aren't going to torture a dog. Ack! *covers eyes*
@Avery--Your story is what I would call domestic horror which is kind of what I'm looking for. The scary things that could be going on in anyone's lives.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 14, 2011 - 5:05am

If anyone wants to write a story about a psychiatrist who starts to believe their patients delusions, I would be open. I know there is a term for that. I am not opposed to a love story between two psychotic people either, the ultimate enabler.

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Lawrence from Dallas, Texas is reading Mr. Mercedes - Stephen King December 14, 2011 - 8:41am

Hey, well this is my first post on the forum. I love that it appears you guys have a thriving community here.

I am really intrigued that you guys are putting together an anthology. I belong to a comic’s community called EOC and last year we put together our own anthology as well. We were able to put it up on Kickstarter and through the support of our amazing community we were able to fund it in less than 24 hours. We are currently putting together our second volume of the anthology as well. If anyone here is interested in writing in another medium such as comics you should definitely give it a look. I hope you guys have just as much success. I know that for a writer trying to get some momentum projects like these are such a huge help.

http://bullpenbulletinspodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=13743.320

(Don't worry not trying to sell it on here at all just thought someone might be interested.) 

Alright, so if you are still taking submissions I would love to try my hand at it. 

I have been working on a short story called "The Ice Pick Cure". The story focuses on Walter Freeman. He was the driving force that popurlized the lobotomy in the forties. Freeman was known for performing up to 25 lobotomies a day with no anaesthesia. To me Freeman was a real life monster and his story is just begging to be told. 

 

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 14, 2011 - 9:43am

That sounds awesome. So when you say you were able to fund it do you mean self publish or get contributions or what? I am still trying to figure out the best way to publish this. If this project is successful, I have ideas for more anthologies. I love short fiction.

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Lawrence from Dallas, Texas is reading Mr. Mercedes - Stephen King December 14, 2011 - 10:21am

We funded the whole project through Kickstarter then self-published. Since it was a comic anthology and we had lots of penciliers doing the project we were able to offer incentives (Small sketches, stickers, etc.). Then we used the funds from the Kickstarter to get the book printed through a printer called Ka-blam (very reasonable prices). By charging slightly more for each copy then the actual cost for printing we were able to print an extra couple hundred to take to conventions with us and sell. 

I can't remeber exactly how many we sold as I was not one of the editors but I am good friends with the guys who did edit the book so I know it was well over 2,000. 2,000 might not seem like a huge number but when it comes to self-publishing its a really good push. Nobody made any money from the project but a couple dozen writers and artist were able to get their stories published and into the hands of readers for no cost to themselves at all. To be honest for projects like this there really is no chance at making money unless something freakish happens and it really takes off. 

Here is a link to a picture I took of the book being sold at Challengers one of the largest comic shops in the US located in Chicago. It's on the top right with the teal cover. It was called "Low Concept" it turned out to be a beautiful trade paperback. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lawrencerosales/5867815654/in/photostream/

Once again good luck on pulling this thing off. I would love to submit something for it. It appears from a distance that you guys have a good community here because I think thats what it takes. We have a great message board at EOC and once the book went up on Kickstarter people flocked to make donations we couldn't of done it without their help unless someone was willing to put up a good chunck of their own money.

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading Wanderers by Chuck Wendig December 14, 2011 - 12:05pm

@Danny--I am, I'm sorry. I feel kind of bad about it already and I haven't even written it yet--that's gotta be a sign it is going to be good though, right? Good news? Dog isn't going to die. At least, that isn't the plan.

Anyhoo, was checking in to let everyone know I will be MIA for a few days between a trans Atlantic flight and recovering from jet-lag, but on the upside, by the time all my in laws slow down on kidnapping my toddler, I will have had time to finish my draft and get it in the workshop...I'm thinking by the 17th.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 14, 2011 - 2:07pm

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 14, 2011 - 2:06pm

@Hetch Litman: nice fucking name. Welcome.

@Lawrence: That looks like a great community. Welcome.

@Renee: Trans-Atlantic? Where? I wish I was going on a Trans-Atlantic flight.

Don't let Danny's reservations about cruelty to animals in literature hold you back. Or anything else for that matter. The fact of the matter is that mentally-ill people do sick things. 

Stories concerning themselves with mental illness should be disturbing. That is the nature of the beast.

I'm not saying anyone should go out of their way to throw a cat in a blender, but if animal torture is a characteristic of a particular psychosis, then by all means include it in your story.

I only say this because from the tone of some of your interactions it sounds like you might actually be considering muzzling your stories in some way because of what Danny is saying. And although like many people he does have a weak threshold for that sort of thing (as do I) I would not advise censoring or taming your work in any way to dulcify or appease. 

Show the brutal reality.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 14, 2011 - 3:36pm

No, it's fine. I can handle it. Just make him hurt humans too. Equal opportunity sociopath. Has anyone ever seen the old black and white movie The Bad Seed?? It has always fascinated me the idea of a child killer who is born evil if you believe insanity is predominantly genetic. Someone should tackle that.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 14, 2011 - 3:46pm

I have met a few of those in my day. I see one everyday when I look in the mirror.

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forgotmypseudo from Connecticut is reading Tea Leaves December 14, 2011 - 10:57pm

If it's not too late.... I'd love in, which would give me a reason to finally re-up here.  I didn't see anyone doing my favorite: PTSD. My plot revolves around the lingering trauma of watching a guy eat beer battered shit whilst wearing fecal cat whiskers on his face and watching scatological(which I think I can't spell) you tube clips. Actually, my plan is more of a "pro PTSD story" the upsides of hyper vigilance and occasional stress black outs. 

As to the delusions question: I've never heard of psychiatrists adopting patients' psychosis or delusion, but there are diagnosed cases where children have.  And I recently heard about one case where a girl hid her pregnancy, then went back to school after having the baby, telling her mother that it was a simulated baby that she got from school for an assignment and the mother took care of it truly believing it was a simulated baby and (maybe, or maybe this is my projection of the scene) having a breakdown when DCF convinced her it was a real baby. 

Hey ! Remembered my cult name....kaetea.  PTSD for me if it's still up for grabs which would kind of surprise me cause all the cool kids have it.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 15, 2011 - 6:34am

I don't believe anyone has claimed it yet. I really want someone to write a psychotic love story. Maybe I will.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 15, 2011 - 6:39am

Psychotic love, like in what way? 

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 7:32am

Hi Kristin!

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 15, 2011 - 7:46am

Kristin!!!

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Liana from Romania and Texas is reading Naked Lunch December 15, 2011 - 7:49am

Hey I think my story about Pliboktoq is expanding in my mind too much for this anthology. I may do animal hoarding instead, for anthology purposes. That way I won't feel I have to restrict what I write in my Arctic story.

Then I can let people decide which fits best. Anyone took animal hoarding?

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 7:52am

I don't think so, but that sounds like a good one. Backward walking cat farms.

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David Shepherd from shepherdsville, KY is reading Idoru by William Gibbson December 15, 2011 - 8:53am

If you want a crazy love story I could do another. I'm thinking agoraphobics living on opposite sides of the country doing everything they can to get the other to come see them so they don't have to leave their house. Yay or nay?

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forgotmypseudo from Connecticut is reading Tea Leaves December 15, 2011 - 9:05am

Chester!!  Liana!!!  Okay....you guys don't know it, but you pushed me into this.... *fingers crossed*

Psychotic Love Stories are the soundtrack of my life (see? psychotic.)  I'd be thrilled to do a psychotic love story if that's better than PTSD.  It would likely involve a depressed narcissist and since I read that you were looking for a narcissist....  Let me know.  I'm up for anything now that I've gotten my toe wet after leaving my pen dormant for a year! 

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. December 15, 2011 - 9:32am

@Lawrence Is that available digitally through comixology?

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter December 15, 2011 - 11:21am

After doing a bit of writing, I can say that my story is about anti-social personality disorder, anxiety, depression, all that fun stuff.  However, it's more focused on misogyny and how my character's hostility and resentment (and underlying fear) of women drives him to commit an anger rape.  It's sort of an examination of male and female sexual identity norms through the perspective of a psuedo-psychotic guy.

I've been inspired by a news story from a nearby city where a girl was found murdered on Halloween, and this composite sketch of a guy who killed a prostitute a year ago surfaced.  The police are pretty sure it's the same guy, who they claim is an anger rapist, probably with anti-social personality disorder.  I wondered if the sketch was actually what the guy looked like, because really, what percent of composite sketches actually look like the person they're going after?  So in my story, I'm having a composite sketch of my character sort of portray the "Hyde" to his "Jekyll".  Because really, my character's pretty normal, except there's a psychosis in him that will allow him to commit a violent rape.  Really, it isn't hard to be mad.

That said, I've really enjoyed reaching the synopsis of everyone else's stories.  Post up your workshop submissions so we can all keep track on each other's progress.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 11:43am

Word on that.

And anyone who is not in the Workshop, please let us know. We just might be able to do something about that. But you have to speak up.

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Raelyn from California is reading The Liars' Club December 15, 2011 - 12:38pm

On that note, I've recently canceled my workshop membership. I'm having to pull every last penny together to fix my car. Although, I'm sure I'll be able to put down $9 once my story is finished.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 12:49pm

So it is $9 a month?

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters December 15, 2011 - 12:51pm

Yes - it is $9 a month.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 12:56pm

Let me see what I can do because we really need to have as many people reviewing the Anthology submissions as possible and it seems that those participating tend to review more than others. 

Like I mentioned before, we are really doing this together to make this thing the best we can and The Workshop is the perfect environment to nurture the little darlings along.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 15, 2011 - 1:18pm

@David--I like what you wrote already. I'm unfortunately going to have to say one story per person. Sorry.

@Kristen--Sure, would like to see what you come up with.

I have to amit for awhile there I was worried but everyone's enthusiasm is inspiring me.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 1:26pm

Either that or the size of the snowball that is chasing you down the hill, right?

I think there might be more enthusiasm on the way.

Do you know when you might get word on whether or not Traci can use an excerpt? Just wonderin'.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 15, 2011 - 1:27pm

I'm still waiting to hear back.

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Chester Pane from Portland, Oregon is reading The Brief and Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz December 15, 2011 - 2:46pm

Thanks for introducing me to a great looking book. I am going to have to read that.

A bit of imagery to inspire your psychoses:

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. December 15, 2011 - 6:34pm

Love it, I feel like I'm on drugs looking at that.

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I'm the artist was on drugs. But what artist isn't?