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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 8, 2012 - 9:45pm

I've tried to keep my newest submission up to date with revisions so I can get maximum input, but the download button almost always pops up the first draft. Is there any way to fix this or should I just use my points to submit the revision after a good number of reviews?

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 9, 2012 - 1:57am

You should be able to delete the old one when you edit and the upload the revised one. 

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Dave from a city near you is reading constantly March 9, 2012 - 2:39am

You probably have to use more points, or people would submit once and rotate stories through their one sub.

Unless I'm not understanding your question.

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin March 9, 2012 - 2:55am

Avery is right, I don't know how well uploading a new version would work from a technical internet perspective, but it doesn't work very well from a "workshop" perspective.

On some level I understand the impulse to get rid of the "misteaks" as soon as they get pointed out, but what you need to be more concerned about the things that aren't mistakes, the style choices that might or might not work from one person to the next. Things like that you need multiple perspectives on so that you can think about how they are executed and changing them "with the wind" based on one review isn't going to get you the most bang for your review buck because it will change how the future reviewers think of that element.

Remember that people who read first drafts are pretty likely to help you out with second drafts too, but you can only really ask them to do that if you are prepared to reward them with points. They can't get new points on the original posting once they've replied to it.

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Dave from a city near you is reading constantly March 9, 2012 - 3:08am

Avery is a genius.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner March 9, 2012 - 3:13am

I like your new picture Dave. 

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 9, 2012 - 11:00am

That's definitely been one of my concerns -- I don't want to just reupload it if it goes off in a new direction, hence leaving my first submission to die. I haven't been making big changes at all, but everyone points out the same things in the first draft. It's a conundrum for me: seem like I'm abusing the system to get more reviews from the same points, or get told the same thing many times? It's always little stuff like certain phrases that don't fit.

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin March 9, 2012 - 11:05am

Wow, that is Dave, isn't it. He tricked me.

Sonofabitch.

I was already freaked out about what sort of thing Dave was capable of... now it's going to be a tense week... he just got in my head.

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 9, 2012 - 11:07am

I wasn't going to call you out on it, Nick... but... yeah, you just got mindfucked by Dave.

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Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin March 9, 2012 - 11:12am

Yeah, I know. But I mean, Dave is in here giving workshop tips, I didn't expect it. Dave hasn't uploaded anything to the workshop, I checked, multiple times. He and I are up against each other in Round 1 of The War, I was trying to get intel, do my recon.

And now I see what I should expect: the unexpected.

Touche.

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 9, 2012 - 11:16am

The best opponents are the ones you think you know everything about... and in fact know nothing.

Meet Dave.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 11:26am

Yeah.  You never know what Dave might do.

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. March 9, 2012 - 1:58pm

Everyone should have that avatar.  Except Avery.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 2:06pm

It'd certainly make the community creepier.

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Dave from a city near you is reading constantly March 9, 2012 - 2:12pm

@Howie...I don't know if I could handle looking at my dashing mug on everyone's post.  Dave overload.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 9, 2012 - 2:27pm

Looking at that picture makes me feel like everything is going to be okay.

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 9, 2012 - 4:29pm

I feel like we should have a "Dave Day" where everyone uses his photo for their avatar.

Chaos ensues.

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Kirk from Pingree Grove, IL is reading The Book Of The New Sun March 9, 2012 - 4:46pm

It has already been mentioned but new drafts should certainly get submitted as a new submission. This is primarily because the reviews/comments on any given draft should reflect the draft that is submitted. If not, it could potentially get very difficult for people to follow. Especially if someone is crafting their critique during the time in which you are uploading a new draft.

If you were fixing simple errors like typos, then without question, just-reattach the file.

As for the question about you getting the old version, not the new one, there is a 2 part solution. First, name the new file a different name then upload it. You should get the new file. If you absolutely want the file to have the same name and have previously downloaded the file, you may need to clear your browser cache. If the browser thinks you're trying to download a file you're previously downloaded, it will attempt to open the file that is cached on your computer. A different file name makes sure this doesn't happen.

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Courtney from the Midwest is reading Monkey: A Journey to the West and a thousand college textbooks March 9, 2012 - 5:20pm

That makes absolute sense -- I never rename the files. It was typically typos/grammar errors; never anything large content wise, so I felt like I could justify uploading them. Thanks for the tips. I was getting review after review pointing out the same typo -- I don't want to waste anyone's time.