I base my claim of "jealousy being the most honest feeling" on the fact, that we, as humans, are most talented individuals to lie to ourselves.
I'm not sure I know what you mean. I think all emotions are equally honest, but people might not always honest about emotions. Some people might be more-or-less-inclined towards dealing honestly with this one or that one, but that's to do with the person, not the emotion. That's how I see it, anyway.
Jealousy isn't too honest, internally or externally. You'd be quick to identify it then cover that emotion up. It's more on the subtle side of rage, which is a more visceral response, so, cognitively, the farther you go into actual rage the harder it is to rationalize. I've come to think embarrassment is the most honest emotion because it's primarily internally conflicting. Others noticing your embarrassment is just going to fuel the emotion in you.
I think fear is the most honest 'emotion'. I have a hard time believing in most emotions to begin with; at least fear creates a (somewhat) quantifiable reaction.
Are you talking about envy, or specific jealousy in relation to a loved one? Because if it's about love, then I'd say there's some dishonesty there. The concealed emotion (and maybe the most honest if revealed) is possessiveness, which is more complex than just an emotion - it has to do with one's role/position in relation to others, an internalized sense of one's entitlement, "rights" over another person.
I would agree with Jeff. Fear is a more basic emotion because it's pure instinct (unless we're talking about anxiety).
I would describe fear as a response, not an emotion. Fear is instinctive. Jealousy is a pure emotion that is true to our selfish natures. Kindness, compassion, charity, these are all deceitful acts of self-service masquerading as selflessness. The pang of jealousy felt when witnessing another in a place we covet reveals our true nature. We, as animals, are selfish. Not shellfish.
I don't know if jealousy is the most "honest" of emotions. Seems more like the byproduct of anger, which is its more raw form. Jealousy--the kind that takes over your life--requires cultivation. That said, jealousy may be the most human of emotions; consider another emotion that could drive you as much to kill a fellow human being?
I'd say jealousy is the least honest emotion. Most times it requires some lie to yourself.
Just sayin, animals feel jealousy too.
Fear is not necessarily in direct response to a threat, unless you're an animal. How then would you explain fear of social situations that haven't happened yet (fear as anticipation of an event).
Hate. Jealousy is probably the least honest.
Fear is not necessarily in direct response to a threat, unless you're an animal. How then would you explain fear of social situations that haven't happened yet (fear as anticipation of an event).
That is anxiety, not fear.
Anxiety/Stress is the same physiological "Fight or Flight" response as is fear. Hence why anxiety medications supress the central nervous system.
Sexual arousal shares the same autonomic response as fear - is that the same thing too?
It's an autonomic response but it's not fight-or-flight at all, unless you get boners when you're about to punch a grizzly bear in the face. Which would be awesome.
You mean... you don't?
As said, jealously is a subsection of anger. Be it anger with yourself or someone else. I think pure rage is the most honest emotion. Honest to God, white hot, you slept with my grandma rage. The feeling that takes us to our most animalistic and therefore most human roots, overriding all sense and thought. Now excuse me, I gotta go try this bear-punching I've been hearing about.
I'd have to go with fear. Jealousy doesn't make people vomit or crap their pants. What's more honest than your body submitting it's functions as a reaction to circumstance. Suppose sadness would have to be a close second on account of the tears or something
Really I'm back to my jealously is the least honest thing. Joy, fear, hate, rage, are all reactions from the gut. Jealously is a thinking emotion.
I dont understand how any emotion would be honest or dishonest. Its not the emotion itself which is dishonest but the person expressing it. One can go overboard with any emotion, whether its dwelling on sadness, love, hate, or jealousy/envy. But does feeling any of these too much make it dishonest, or too little, or is it the context in which its felt ?
Or are you saying jealousy is harder to hide than other emotions? If so it may depend on the person.
No, I'm saying jealousy is mostly feeling a lie. I deserve x, and don't have it. Most times we really don't deserve the thing we are jealous of.
Oh, i see. I guess in the age of entitlement that probably is true, haha.
