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Cath Murphy from UK is reading Find out on the Unpr!ntable podcast March 11, 2013 - 3:00am

...then I am a Russian bodybuilder called Dmitri.

Yet here she is, trying to make us believe that Bella Swann is Germaine Greer reincarnated:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/mar/11/stephenie-meyer-twilight-the-host

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 11, 2013 - 6:29am

"I think there are many feminists who would say that I am not a feminist. But, to me ... I love women, I have a lot of girlfriends, I admire them, they make so much more sense to me than men, and I feel like the world is a better place when women are in charge. So that kind of by default makes me a feminist. I love working in a female world."

Holy fuck, she got it so wrong.

Also, this quote irks me to no end:

"To me, true love is that you would hurt yourself before you would hurt your partner, you would do anything to make them happy, even at your own expense, there's nothing selfish about true love. It's not about what you want. It's about what makes them happy."

So like, true love is what I thought it was when I was a teenager reading Cosmo. Okay.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 11, 2013 - 6:51am

To paraphrase:  True love is, like, where you just do what you're told because that makes your partner happy.  Because if you're truly in love, they're happiness makes you happy, even if what makes them happy makes you want to kill yourself.  That part is only superficial.  It's your selfishness talking, and you just have to tell that slefish part of you to shut the fuck up because it's more important that your partner (your better half, after all) have what they want, even if the having makes you want to take a bath in bleach...

I'm a better feminist than Stephenie Meyer.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 11, 2013 - 6:58am

I'm a better feminist than Stephenie Meyer. 

Seriously.

they make so much more sense to me than men, and I feel like the world is a better place when women are in charge.

It's cute when women actually perpetuate the stereotype that this idea is feminism.  Forget the notion of equality, surely that's not it. 

 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 11, 2013 - 7:18am

Holy shit, I just reread my previous post and see that it is full of typos that I will not fix.

 

 

 

I break my heart sometimes.

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TomMartinArt from Amherst, MA March 11, 2013 - 7:31am

"I think there are many feminists who would say that I am not a feminist. But, to me ... I love women, I have a lot of girlfriends, I admire them, they make so much more sense to me than men, and I feel like the world is a better place when women are in charge. So that kind of by default makes me a feminist. I love working in a female world."

That's not feminism, that's good old-fashioned sexism. If your goal as a feminist is anything other than actual, real equality, go walk into a wall.

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Cath Murphy from UK is reading Find out on the Unpr!ntable podcast March 11, 2013 - 9:01am

Yes, that part about true love being about doing anything to make another person happy had me reaching for the sick bag.

Perhaps it's unfair to compare Meyer's views to any rational standard though (how can one be a feminist 'by default'?). It's a bit like expecting a tortoise to compete in a high jump competition.

We're recording a Sluttylemon podcast tonight during which I feel pretty sure Eve and I will eviscerate Ms Meyer. I'll put up a link when it's live.

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Emily Thrash March 11, 2013 - 9:56am

I don't know why people are still asking the question "Why do girls like this so much?"

Twilight is essentially a story about a ordinary girl who turns out to not be so ordinary.  She's so special, in fact, that she draws the obsessive, devouted love of a beautiful, supernatural man. It's a very adolescent fantasy, and had I been 15 (instead of 25) when these books came out, I may not have known better. 

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 11, 2013 - 10:02am

Well, her whole belief about love is basically the entire plot of Twilight, which is kind of gross because it means she never grew up from the whole little girl fantasy about what it means to get a guy.

It's so frustrating to me, that there are real feminists out there who claim not to be feminists, and then there are self-proclaimed feminists who refuse to discuss serious feminist issues because of religious reasons.

@Cathy - I'm excited to listen!

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 11, 2013 - 10:04am

Well, her whole belief about love is basically the entire plot of Twilight, which is kind of gross because it means she never grew up from the whole little girl fantasy about what it means to get a guy.

It's so frustrating to me, that there are real feminists out there who claim not to be feminists, and then there are self-proclaimed feminists who refuse to discuss serious feminist issues because of religious reasons.

@Cath - I'm excited to listen!

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ReneeAPickup from Southern California is reading A truckload of books March 11, 2013 - 4:45pm

AAAAARGGHHHHHOHMYGODMYHEAD!!!! MY HEAD!!! I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY FUCKING EXPLODING!

 

I am way too exhausted to respond to this with anything more than a big, giant, bolded and underlined WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Saying "I love women" doesn't make you a fucking feminist. A large majority of misogyny is based on "loving" women and thinking the poor, frail little things need protection. This is probably the first time I've felt so strongly about anything that's come out of Meyer's head, but seriously, because it bears repeating: WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?!

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leah_beth from New Jersey - now in Charleston, SC is reading five different books at once. March 11, 2013 - 5:17pm

^^^ That.

I can't say it any better than the most bad-ass ex-Marine woman I know.

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Bekanator from Kamloops, British Columbia is reading Ugly Girls by Lindsay Hunter March 11, 2013 - 5:25pm

This is why I love SMeyer. She tries so hard to be serious and it just never happens.

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Strange Photon from Fort Wayne, IN is reading Laurie Anderson lyrics March 11, 2013 - 5:36pm

If two people are in Meyer love, then each of them will be hurting themselves to spare the other pain, but hurting oneself causes pain, so what will either of them do to spare the other self-inflicted pain?

I kind of envision this circular spiral of painful love that ends in an infinite density, then a singularity. So, a couple finally becoming like one. How romantic... til the singularity collapses in on itself and we are left with a yawning, sucking black hole of love, from which nothing can escape, not even twi-light.

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 11, 2013 - 7:36pm

A kiss with a fist is better than none!

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jyh from VA is reading whatever he feels like March 11, 2013 - 10:12pm

Punk's not dead.

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Dwayne from Cincinnati, Ohio (suburbs) is reading books that rotate to often to keep this updated March 12, 2013 - 2:13am

So she only hits herself because she loves him?

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry March 12, 2013 - 5:25am

She's like a house elf...

 

 

 

 

And I'm like a nerd.