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Redd Tramp from Los Angeles, CA is reading Mongrels by SGJ; Sacred and Immoral: On the Writings of Chuck Palahniuk; The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault December 18, 2014 - 3:10pm

So, maybe I'm crazy but I think not. I think this is my third go through of Dermaphoria, and earlier in the book, when Eric's getting his bandages checked by the doctor, he overhears someone, an overdose patient, talking to a doctor, telling him it was an accident. This immediately made me think of Contortionist's Handbook. I chuckled, mentally wagged a finger at Clevenger, and kept reading.

And just now, at the end of Chapter Fourteen, on pages 97-98, Manhattan White goes to see Eric about the paperwork for Oz and brings with him a man he calls Associate. The man has "red hair and blue eyes" dresses in nondescript greys and tans, is immaculately clean, and doesn't shake Eric's hand or tell him his name when Eric extends a hand. Then he puts a cigarette to his mouth, even though Eric "could have sworn his hand was empty" and "didn't see him reach for his pocket". This could totally be John Vincent!! Not to mention how the guy knows EXACTLY how far they are from the house, he tosses a rock showing where five hundred feet is, and that he sets up the paper trail for Eric's house. 

So maybe I'm crazy, and maybe I'm dumb for not noticing this before, but holy crap this blew my mind.

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big_old_dave from Watford, about 20 miles outside London, Uk December 19, 2014 - 7:33am

It is John Vincent. Listened to a podcast a while back, can't find the link but he said that he wants places and characters to over lap. All his work exist in the same world. Be intresting how mothers howl is going to fit in.

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Redd Tramp from Los Angeles, CA is reading Mongrels by SGJ; Sacred and Immoral: On the Writings of Chuck Palahniuk; The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault December 19, 2014 - 9:16am

That's amazing!! Now I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. There's a lot about this book that I'm just noticing. Including something to do with Desiree and candles, I guess I didn't pick up on that exactly before, and I'm still trying to figure out who introduced Eric to White if not Otto. I freakin love how twisty this book is.

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big_old_dave from Watford, about 20 miles outside London, Uk December 19, 2014 - 12:10pm

Be intresting how the film turns out

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Redd Tramp from Los Angeles, CA is reading Mongrels by SGJ; Sacred and Immoral: On the Writings of Chuck Palahniuk; The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault December 19, 2014 - 12:25pm

Be very interesting. I'm a little scared.

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voodoo_em from England is reading All the books by Ira Levin December 19, 2014 - 2:19pm

The film looks promising.

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Redd Tramp from Los Angeles, CA is reading Mongrels by SGJ; Sacred and Immoral: On the Writings of Chuck Palahniuk; The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault December 19, 2014 - 2:32pm

I like the looks of the preview, even if I don't understand the change from LA to New Orleans. I just hope, HOPE, they don't change the ending, Eric waiting for the SWAT to burst into the abandoned hotel room. The ending killed me. I'm writing this from the afterlife.

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voodoo_em from England is reading All the books by Ira Levin December 19, 2014 - 2:37pm

Don't you know the books are always better than the films :P

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Redd Tramp from Los Angeles, CA is reading Mongrels by SGJ; Sacred and Immoral: On the Writings of Chuck Palahniuk; The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault December 19, 2014 - 3:05pm

Yep. Always. But still, should be good! I hope it gets more people to read the book.