This is a responce to the "An interesting BOOBS" thread. Only...you guessed it! With boys/men. Contrary to the title, "masculine" pictures are allowed also. Guidelines are:
no exposed dicks. nothing underaged....and that is all!
There's my folder dump. I have more but it breaks the first rule.
None of these appear to be men. I call bullshit.
Bishōnen, dear. Manly men are gross imho,
Curious this fascination with androgyny and effeminate males. I wonder where it fits into a Darwinian model.
I guess thats how the British gay scene works.
Oh and this thread doesn't cut it without:
Meh. I like my men a little more sturdy.
naw, most gay guys over here like muscle as well. It's just me :P
So, did you ever actually look at the Boobs thread? Because I don't understand how this is a response to a cracked.com website to debunk memes...
yes i did. I looked at it, and noticed how cracked.com debunked memes, and i also noticed that it descended into boobs. Aylee said that he wanted a men-in-speedos thread so i took the initiative
I see, I guess I didn't scroll down far enough.
In any event the real reason I ended up on this thread was this strange word, Bishonen, does that just mean the same thing as Twink? Is it some crazy japanimated word?
I prefer to keep the objects of my lust a secret - like a lady.
I know I'll come back on my knees...
Keep your adrongeny, I don't have a type per se, but I like men that look like men, and women who look like women. In keeping with the thread:
And for the geeks in the house:
Nick--you missed quite a bit.
Probably, I've been trying to break my forum habit.
I just remember seeing Boobs in the title and thinking "Boobs!" and then I clicked on the thread and there weren't any boobs at the time and I thought "if I want to look at boobs then why am I hanging out on Litreactor? There's an internet full of boobs out there." and I got distracted pretty quickly.
@renee HOLY FUCK WHAT IS THAT WITH DAVID TENNANT IT LOOKS AWESOME
Fright Night.
thankyou. david tennant is the sex. Especially as the Doctor.
I will post my top five later tonite. Prepare yourselves for testosterone overload!
Matt -- I was wondering the same thing, about where androgyny stands in the Darwinian model, and found an article about it. It turns out that women are attracted to masculine men prior to childbirth because their bodies are looking for someone to impregnate them, and the strongest, biggest badasses are usually the ones eager to fuck multiple times, therefore upping the chances of pregnancy. Basically, women look for whoever is most likely to get them impregnated. That's why men with a long sexual history are more attractive -- more women have fucked them, therefore they're obviously virile. You also exude a hormone that attracts women to you when you have sex, so you can get more women to fuck you.
But see, after childbirth, the women needs a man less likely to die in a hunting accident or a bar fight, so women begin looking for more sensitive, effiminate men directly after they've given birth so they can have a partner and companion in raising the child.
The only issue with this model is that with the invention of birth control, most women are constantly exuding the hormones they'd typically only give off after childbirth (birth control mimics pregnancy, etc.) and therefore constantly look for the sensitive Andrej Pejic's (by the way, fuck yeah Andrej Pejic) of the world.
To clarify: bitches look for tough men prior to childbirth and girly-men after childbirth. With birth control, almost all women are in the state of "after childbirth" and therefore popular culture demands more girly-men.
Well, on average maybe, but I'm a mom and I still like 'em manly.
In seriousness though, I've read a lot on the same theory.
@Court I read the same damn article! Just goes to show how far off the beaten path the "civilized" world is. We should have never left the trees. Fuck it, I say return to the Neolithic.
@Sparrow -- In reality, they're trying to say that it's "popular" to be effiminate because tastes changed so radically with the invention of birth control. To each their own. I went from a girly-man so entrenched in his own insecurities that he became abusive to a slighty effiminate but respectful guy that's neither too feminine or masculine. I wouldn't fuck someone who uses more makeup than I, but I sure as hell wouldn't fuck someone so masculine my only place is in the kitchen. Balance.
@Matt -- Isn't it fucking insane how society evolved? We used to be a culture of mass orgies so the women would get pregnant, but the men wouldn't know who the father was -- that way, all the men would take care of all of the kids. When the fuck did that end? Paternity tests made your life way easier. In a way, so did the androgeny popularity -- the women going after girly-guys are the ones you can fuck without getting 'em pregnant! It's an easy way to discern who's your best shot.
"wouldn't fuck someone so masculine my only place is in the kitchen."
I wouldn't call that masculine though. I'd call that bullshit. A guy can be masculine without being an asshole.
Let me rephrase:
"wouldn't fuck someone so dedicated to proving their masculinity that my only place is in the kitchen."
I love masculine men, but in my experience, half of them only display it so they can prove to themselves that they are indeed men.
I get what you mean. I don't know that I have a type, but I have specifications. I don't want to have to worry I'm going to hurt them.
Courtney--I wasn't disagreeing, just putting myself out there as the exception that proves the rule. Husband and I got really into discussing the Sperm Wars and evolutionary biology.
And oh man...I like a man that looks masculine. I don't like a man who is so insecure with himself that he has to be macho. I couldn't live with someone like that, and in my experience they are all lousy lays.
Macho - that's the word. Those guys are generally douches., and yeah, lousy lays. Masculine is good.
So Matt are you a sensitive poet or a lousy lay douche? lol
Honestly though, men can be masculine and feminine at the same time. Masculine as in courageous and strong while also being sensitive and thoughtful. Women can be dominant and aggressive without being bitchy and kind/emotional without being pushovers. It's all about balance. The problem is most people give over to one half and think that's all they are allowed to be. Guys turn into fratboy douchebags and women turn into cheerleader housewife Avon saleslady stereotypes. I hate guys who have the IQ of bricks and I hate women who act like they are in a fucking TV commercial for vacuum cleaners.
Can't wait to see what Shiznikki does with this.
I like my men a little more sturdy.
Nice Avery. Avery nice.
Does this have anything to do with poll construction?
those are MEN!
No, those are boys. These are men.
I love John Barrowman, Danny!
This is a sexy man and amazingly hot in drag!!!
Yeah, John Barrowman is awesome and is actually gay.
So Matt are you a sensitive poet or a lousy lay douche? lol"
Both?
@Court, well it's better than being Roman....oh wait....we pretty much are....yeah...I think guys tend to be generalized or used as caricatures in the media because they have no clue what to do with us. Guys really aren't needed. We don't exactly fit in so a lot of guys who don't grow up with Dads around see that and tell themselves that is the ideal state of manhood. Since my Dad was around, he is the model of manhood to me. He hardly speaks, is thoughtful, loves his wife and kids and sacrificed a lot for us and he is humble. Despite my bravado (which is a joke most people don't seem to get) I work everyday to be half the man he is. But a lot of guys don't have that, so they fall into these caricatures (i.e. The frat boy, the sensitive poet guy, the bully ect ect). Which is sad and just shows how far down the wrong path we have gone. There is a threshold that every society reaches before it collapses. In the digital age ours is obviously faster. I have always felt this (male issues) is a symptom of a greater issues and I am reminded of the words of a notable feminist. (I've posted this before I think)
Men weren’t really the enemy — they were fellow victims suffering from an outmoded masculine mystique that made them feel unnecessarily inadequate when there were no bears to kill. -- Betty Friedan
Court you always bring up interesting things to talk about....I love it!
@Danny
You have impecable taste - I love all those men and I'm with Rennee - i prefer my men MANLY :p being a big old queen myself I worry that if i got with a man who was as camp as me we'd end up cumming rainbows.
I agree with Howie, although I do have black Robert Downey Jr. as a display pic.
"Does this have anything to do with poll construction?"
@Chester - Haaa! Perhaps. But you know, if I decide to jump a man, I don't want to worry about injuring his delicate feminine-ness. I need someone who can ... handle me.
It takes a MAN to toss those jumblies around!
@aylee yes yes no no no no no
@Stacy, YES
Idon't know. I guess I'm a poet, but I also have some quite large people issues: ie. if someone i don't like touches me, I will probably hurt them. I'm not at all a frat boy. I hate most sports, beer=piss and i dont have a sixpack. My model of manhood is probably someone who lives on his own, doesn't talk much and makes great things.
My model of manhood? I think it's far to say we come from a society that defines manhood by their fathers, so in my case, my personal ad would read:
SWF, short and chubby, seeks PERFECT MAN. Must be willing to resort to criminal means to feed his family. Skinny men need not apply. Must have strong biceps capable of lifting the tail end of a car when adrenaline hits. I want you to be strong and silent but affectionate and intelligent without a college degree. No chauvinists need apply -- a healthy respect for women in necessary.
(Just realized I wrote about my dad but my current boyfriend meets all requirements. Fuck everything, I'm going to go soul-search for a while)
Avery -- That seems like a fair set of standards.
Sparrow -- Oh, definitely. Macho men usually can't last, either... at least in my experience. Masculine men? Hell yeah. Macho? No.
Alien -- Exactly what I've seen. I try to be strong and independent, but not a bitchy "I am Woman, hear me ROAR" type. I look for men that are masculine and brave, but aren't going to smack me in the face for not cooking dinner. It seems that we believe in caricatures over personality now. Also, mmm. Love the photos.
Matt -- Hell, I'd respect a man like you over a caricature any day. I think the hardest part about being a self-identified feminist is that I'm expected to hate men. Far from that, I respect men over most women -- I think women are the reason we're still lagging behind. In reality, men that look at their families and love them a little more each day tend to be the most masculine. They work hard to keep food on the table and warm clothing on their children's backs. There's no way that a man incapable of love (like most "macho" men, as we've defined them to be) could be that strong or hardy.
If we neglect the caricatures, what would children learn? That not everyone fits in a tight box built before they can even wipe their own asses? That would be great. But then again, the caricatures tend to be a road map to civility for a lot of children. I wouldn't be a feminist if my grandfather hadn't worn a sparking gold "MCP" (Male Chauvinist Pig) necklace.
I'm glad I could be of interest!
@Court- that was epic. Marry me? LOL. I think you're right about everything. I have nothing further to add. You=win.
New discussion. GO.
Matt -- I no longer believe in marriage, but suitable terms can be arranged if you come up with a dowry. I demand ancient, magical artifacts. (Also considering printing out the only time a man has ever told me "I think you're right about everything" and using it as a bumper sticker.)
As for the new discussion -- eggs have pointy ends?! I want one. The coolest egg I've ever had was one with two yolks. I performed an abortion on twins, it seems. Really, though, with that logic, American football should be called handprism.
@Jamesey--have I told you lately that I love you! Your post cracked me up!
As for the conversation--I agree that men are not the enemy. Men are stereotyped and discriminated against, for sure--what I think is ironic is, that when women stereotype men, it actually hurts us. How can a working woman have balance in her household if we continue to push the idea that men have no clue how to care for children or do the laundry? We can't. She ASSumes he isn't capable, society tells him he isn't capable--so she works 60 hours a week, is the primary care giver of the children and does the majority of the housework. How does that help anyone? The man who stays at home to be with his kids is "lazy", the male kindergarten teacher is a "pervert", men aren't allowed to show emotion unless it relates to Old Yeller. What a load of bullshit!
Human beings are multi-faceted, and I think men and women both have the right to experience all facets of their being, and that no one gets treated better when we push expectations and "rules" on either gender. Some men do fit certain stereotypes, just as some women do--but that isn't an excuse to continue to push those stereotypes. The poet, the frat boy, etc. may be 100% real, not trying to live up to anything but who they are. So what? If they are happy and not fucking anyone else over--let 'em. Same for anyone else.
Dowry!? What a heartbreaker! I might be able to find the Spear of Destiny. No promises. You might just have to settle for a herd of goats and a textile factory (non-union)
I performed an abortion on twins, it seems"
Also, that's a pretty hardcore way of describing scrabbled eggs. HAHAHA
Holy shit Renee! That was pretty awesome as well.
I've had some time to practice that. My brother was a live in nanny for awhile. So, of course, he was either gay, a child molestor, or some mix of both. Or it was a job when he needed one and he's good with kids. Either way.Of course he is built like a tank and is now a Marine, so now he's obviously a macho man who thinks of nothing but weights, beer and pussy...right? Or something...
It's irritating. I think my husband would be a better stay at home parent than I am. I can say that straight up. But I breastfed and his job is contracted with medical insurance and a retirement plan. So I stay home.
I am impressed. Practiced or not.
Sparrow, you've said everything I was thinking! My father was fantastic with his kids from the beginning, but the "manly" thing to do was have a job and be distant. My mom had a job, took care of the house, and took care of us -- it was hell for her until we started taking care of ourselves!
I think it's time for women to stop degrading men. In reality, women could run the world if we'd keep our legs shut. Don't give the douches pussy, their offspring won't be put into the world. If we put emphasis on the right men -- the good men, the ones that were raised well and act right -- we could have a much happier group.
Matt, I apologize for my standards. But I do draw the line at non-union -- being a third generation union baby, you gotta unionize to win my heart.
Did my prowess surprise you? I can be hardcore when I don't wear a skirt. Actually, wearing a skirt helps -- it adds to the mystery.
I'd rather say home with my kids if I were a better parent; if it were the other way around, fuck that man's career, he's raising the goddamn kids. I wish we lived in a society that took everyone for what they were instead of assuming positions are built prior to the personality.
