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We Make Bombs for the Universe to See

By Old Jeezy in Teleport Us

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This is story about a budding insurgency and how far humans will go to fight for their freedom from an invading alien race. 

 

 

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Liam Hogan from Earth is reading Hugo Nominations March 1, 2013 - 7:34am

I don't and can't believe that people hiding out in a cave can build a 3d printing machine, and print bombs. So unfortunately, the invention side of the brief doesn't seem to work.

Also, you need to work stronger on what it is the Jesuits are fighting for - you have to explain more what the invaders did to quell the earth, if we are to have any sympathy wih the morally dubious solution. Ditto, why Griggs is on their side.

Be careful also with your consistancy - saying an 9 ft purple scaled beast DOESN'T look like an alien doesn't ring true, any more than scientists can disprove God (and if they had, then this whole religion slant begins to look a bit odd.) Science, and commerce, can be said to weaken religion, with a resurgence in times of trouble - fine! But not your way.

Finally, you should be getting the reader all tense about a will he/won't he at the end - but in actually, it seems more anti-climatic than climatic. Bring us some suspense! And put Griggs doubts before the incident, to lead to a swifter close to the story after the climax.

Hope this is helpful - the writing is clear and concise, but there is more to editing than fixing up typos! Concentrate on what your story needs to deliver, and cut anything (ruthlessly!) that doesn't! And keep writing!

 

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep March 1, 2013 - 8:51am

Liam,

Thanks for reading and the advice. You make some good points, and there really is no character in the story with a natural character arc, so I could see how you would have a difficult time relating to anyone. My biggest struggle with sci-fi is how do you describe the future in a subtle way so as not to distract the reader from the narrative. Sounds like, for you, I was way to subtle. The whole point of the story is a not so thinly veiled commentary on people using religion to justify violence. In our world today people sling mud at the middle east, but I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot if Christians would be any different. That's really the point of the story more than any one character's specific journey. But maybe this story would be more succesful with both. As for building bombs in caves, people do that now, very complicated bombs in fact. As for scientists disproving religion, many are trying that now and if it did happen I don't think its much of a stretch that not everyone would go for it...especialy if aliens invaded and people needed to have faith in something while their lives were hopeless. I would agree that is story is anticlimactic.. That's kind of the point, but to your point, that doesn't necessarily mean I made the right choice. We'll see what others say. Thanks again.

-Adam

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Juice Ica from Rhode Island is reading The Twelve by Justin Cronin & Beautiful Creatures March 1, 2013 - 1:02pm

My biggest issue with this story isnt the science, I do agree people can build bombs in caves, its with the characters. They arent really developed in a way that I feel anything for them. I mean, Griggs makes a good point, why Carlos? Did he volunteer (maybe I missed that part in my reading and if thats the case I apologize) or was he picked? What are they fighting for? Against? Or are they really the enemy here and the aliens are the good guys? I was left with a lot of questions that made me feel unsettled about this story.

From a technical standpoint, your writing is well done, easy to read and flows nicely. I had no issues about that. 

Id say in any further edits that you need to develop the characters more, make us FEEL something for them and build up the tension a bit so we arent sure if the boy is going to do what he needs to do. Maybe the POV should be Carlos? I dont know but I think this has a lot of potential as the message you are conveying is one that is both relevant and powerful. Keep writing!

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep March 1, 2013 - 2:03pm

Thanks for reading my story. I appreciate the thoughtful advice. Sounds like I need to pick a main character.

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep March 1, 2013 - 2:03pm

Thanks for reading my story. I appreciate the thoughtful advice. Sounds like I need to pick a main character.

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scifiwriterguy from Chicago, IL is reading Iscariot by Tosca Lee March 1, 2013 - 10:52pm

Hey there,

I'd like to point out a few options you have stylistically that I think would improve your writing using this section of dilogue:

“Couldn’t get your friend here to help get through the cordon?” the old man quipped.
“Too risky with our cargo and all.” John brushed sweat away from his face.
“Must be something pretty important.”
“Yessir.”
“I doubt you would like to tell us about it?”
“You’ll find out soon enough,” John said patiently. “Hopefully, the whole universe will.”

Problem one:

You’ve reversed the order of your dialogue and beats,placing your beat (the action) after your dialogue:

“Too risky with our cargo and all.” John brushed sweat away from his face.

If you put your beat first, it creates a far more engaging read. Good writers tend to use beats first, dialogue second, unless they have a compelling reason not to.

Problem two:

You've used two differed adverbs for dialogue markers. (Quipped and patiently).

When you have a character hiss, growl, beg, demand, or (insert another descriptor here) in a sentence, you’re violating the “show don’t tell” principle. It’s usually a sign of weak dialogue. If you feel like you need to use a tag other than said, asked, and occasionally, whispered or shouted for the reader to understand your meaning, you need to rewrite your dialogue and the beats around it to make it stronger and clearer.

Even if you use asked or said, you might still be telling if you tack on adverbs. (An adverb is a word that modifies a verb, adjective, or another adverb.)

She said sadly. He asked sulkily. She said angrily. 

Telling:  “Are you sure he escaped?” Annabelle asked anxiously.

Showing: “What do you mean he might have escaped?” Annabelle’s gaze darted to the door, and she chewed the edge of her thumb nail. “He either did or he didn’t. Which is it?”

Hope that helps,

Nathan

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep March 2, 2013 - 9:53am

Nathan,

Thanks, man. Great advice.

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Adam Jenkins from Bracknell, England is reading RCX Magazine (Issue 1 coming soon) March 21, 2013 - 8:49am

I couldn't not give this a thumbs up. There is no way this deserves to score so low.

Sure it's flawed, but there is enough here to hint at promise. I like the way you've brought in religion and suicide bombers. To use a child is shocking, but its happened in the past, and it will happen in the future I'm sure. The writing is generally good (you've got some quality feedback already on that front I see) and it has a good flow to it. It could use another couple of edits (though that's true of the vast majority of stories, including mine) to smooth it over a bit, but you have the basis of a very good piece here. 

EDIT - weirdly it's showing that I've given a thumbs up but not showing on the bar. Hopefully that will sort itself out!

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep April 4, 2013 - 10:00am

Adam,

Thanks I appreciate it. Yeah, I understand the story has flaws and probably needs a lot more work, but I was getting bummed out that no one at least said, "that's an interesting idea and not some rehashed Ray Bradbury story." Thanks for the feedback and letting me know that it's okay to forge ahead on topics such as this.  

-AJM

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep April 4, 2013 - 10:01am

Adam,

Thanks I appreciate it. Yeah, I understand the story has flaws and probably needs a lot more work, but I was getting bummed out that no one at least said, "that's an interesting idea and not some rehashed Ray Bradbury story." Thanks for the feedback and letting me know that it's okay to forge ahead on topics such as this.  

-AJM

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ArlaneEnalra from Texas is reading Right now I'm editing . . .. March 23, 2013 - 4:12pm

There's more to a bomb than what a 3d printer alone could produce.  To pull off printing an explosive device of the nature you're describing, you would need something more like Star Trek's replicators than a printer.  I'd elaborate on the device and its operating principles a little more.  Maybe they have a machine that prints atoms rather than laying down layers of plastic or metal?

Also, the idea of Jesuits using a child as a suicide bomber is way off to me.  As I remember it, the Catholic church has some harsh things to say about people who take their own life. 

A couple of technical notes:

  • I saw this several times: "John said. John ..."  Find another way to say what you're trying to convey there.  Even dropping the "John said" part entirely would work for most of the cases.  As it is, the doubled name feels repetitious and doesn't flow well.
  • Page 2: "A day will come ..." if you're going to make internal thoughts italic, be consistent with it.
  • You're over using the word "said".  Add a little variety and things will read smoother.

While I can' comfortably up-vote this story, I don't think it is all that bad.   You could probably fix it up with a few tweaks (say changing the religious affiliations of your terrorists, etc.) and some editing.  Good attempt and Keep at it!

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Old Jeezy from Austin is reading A Fire Upon the Deep April 4, 2013 - 10:08am

Arlane,

thanks for the review. The whole point of it was that throughout history people have used religion to justify their actions. I could go on and on about why I chose to go that way, but I think it might make more sense if I had done a better job fleshing out the world these guys are living in and why the felt to need to go to such great lengths to get their point across. I also wanted to convey the price of war has on our children. Thanks again!