Hello All,
Since there are a lot of new faces in here, and some old ones, like myself, I was wondering if we'd all like to meet in this space to talk books and craft and projects and futures at a scheduled time. You know, like in the old days when we chatted with each other and had to constantly refresh the page to see if there was a response.
So my proposal (yes, so soon), is to plan a day and hour when we would all come together to talk randomly and wildly about random stuff and get acquainted. Simply post a few times that you think you'd be able to do this, and we just see how that goes. It doesn't need to be a 100% agreement. Just a few people who feel like using this space to actually chat and get the most bang for our buck.
Saturdays between 2pm and 6pm; Sundays between 12pm and 4pm; Weekdays between 10pm and 12pm.
Again, just a thought, not a requirement, just a way for people with shared interests to talk about those interests.
Hi, Jose. I am generally sleeping as I work nights but I will happily jump on later to see what's going on!
I'm in Tokyo, so can't always do the maths of your time, but will happily use your space, as I like the concept of chatting more on writerly shit... and read something today (your last night, technically) that I thought was worth sharing with fellow writers.
In a Hannah Tinti interview on the Rumpus, she mentions that, as a writing excercise, she draws a picture every day. It's usually a doodle of a monster, that begins with a random squiggle. It sounds like she draws a random squiggle, then draws something from it, usually a monster, where she'll "imagine where the eyes should be, the teeth"--as an excercise to get more comfortable ceding control to the subconscious. She credits Lynda Barry with the concept.
For some reason, I love this idea. I'm fascinated by the role of the subconscious in the writing process, and where creativity comes from, and how different the process might be for every writer.
I'm not quite addressing your concept, just wanted to share, and see if anyone had any thoughts on the topic. How does it work in your writing?
To time stamp this, I'm several beers into Saturday night, your future, and yes, Miami beat Clemson...
(And to address your concept, if people choose a time, I'd make an effort to contribute.)
Something akin to that doodle monster process is often how I begin writing fiction or poetry. Much of the time, I don't have a topic or particular plot in mind. I might have a genre or idea for structuring I'd like to try, but the specifics come as I go along and find them. Sometimes I don't imagine individual items to include in the story or poem. Rather, looking at what I've already written, I see places where something should be. I find an X-shaped hole and then I craft an X to fill it.
Regarding specific events in the time and space of my writer's life, there aren't many. I haven't written much lately. I almost entered a few of my favorite unpublished poems into a contest. I receieved a credit company gift card as a work bonus. I tried to use it to pay the entry fee and it was not accepted. (I know the balance was still good. I think the submissions manager just doesn't accept that brand of card.) I could've paid the fee using my personal bank card, but I balked at the idea and the deadline passed.
I'm in.
The weekdays are probably the best for me. But I'm open to any of the times you suggested.
jyh, that's kind of how it works for me. One of my close friends is a prolific, self-publishing writer, and several of the blogging personalities of that world adhere to a speed/flow writing technique as the only way to channel the true, unadulterated subconscious YOU. Some of them don't even edit their work.
I'm the opposite, though. I get words down, then grind and grind until new things kind of appear. I also, as you mention, believe in rereading what's there for clues of what the story wants to say.
However it works, for me it's the deepest pleasure of writing, when something just occurs, unplanned, and is better than anything you ever could have thunk.
DE-HIJACKED!
Let's do it. Meet up in here, do it somewhat-chat-style. Saturday?
I'm in. I'll be here.
Why not do a disqus thing?
I'm more able-ist than anything...
T-minus 5 hours and counting...
I'm here! Where's the rest of you jokers?
I'm terrible at starting a conversation. That's why I make such a good community manager!
I guess I'll just tell a quick story I heard this week, and if you come in, do the same. Just a couple lines, something you heard that was funny or interesting.
I was listening to a guy who started a small hop farm. They had to put up a lot of poles to string up wire (hops grow upwards, sort of like grapes), and when they were working, people kept pulling off the highway to ask what they were doing with this huge field full of poles. The best part, this farmer said, was when people wouldn't just say "What are you doing?" but when they would say "What are you doing..." and then take a guess before the farmer had a chance to answer.
His favorite was, "What are you making out here? A stripper agility course?"
Bwaha. I like it.
Boston, eh? I feel like Boston has an underrated level of shitty weather. But you're right, it's great for staying inside and getting shit done.
Are you still in your MFA program? How's it going?
That's shitty. I hear what you're saying. My sister went to college in Boston, and I think she's got some of that.
One of my good friends, and a guy I roomed with for a few years, was a Navy vet. He could be abrasive, but I liked him a lot. He was a really good friend. He had no problem telling me when I was being an asshole, and he was usually right, but at the same time he was one of the most loyal people I knew. I don't know if the personality took him towards the Navy or if the Navy swung him that way, but either way, he was different.
I've got this new buddy who joined the National Guard, which he likes a lot. I was sort of surprised he talked about it in such glowing terms until I found out his previous jobs were in a mine and at a slaughterhouse (no kidding). He took a slaughterhouse job to pay back his student loans. It's one of the higher-paying but shittier jobs in the area I live.
I feel like one of the good things about the MFA would be that you'd (hopefully) end up with a lot of folks who you could get along with. Does it make it tough in class to feel like the interactions suck, or is it fine in terms of getting work done?
I don't think I ever asked, did you go military to go to college, or did you go military and then decide to go somewhere along the line?
Jose, sorry you don't care for Boston. I'm assuming your job or your MFA program took you there. It's a place I'd like to visit sometime. Tell me about your MFA. I haven't really given much thought to ever getting one but would love to hear about the curriculum and what you're getting from it.
Loretta
Military people are thanked, but asked to change so the civilians don't have to be confronted with abrassive personalities. They like what the military gives them, just not the type of people it produces to get that job done.
I live in a town with a world-famous slaughterhouse. Everyone hates slaughterhouses. Everyone hates when animals aren't treated with as much respect as we'd like. Everyone hates that the jobs are dirty, difficult, and dangerous. But everyone likes to eat. Everyone hates factory farming, but they're also unwilling (and unable) to pay for beef that's $12/pound. Everyone hates genetically-modified organisms, but they love living in affordable housing in new subdivisions, which means ag land is shrinking and becoming more costly all the time, which means a lot more has to be grown with a lot less input.