Utah
from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtryFebruary 20, 2012 - 3:08pm
I hope not. My sincere hope is that everybody in this battle be convinced that they're going to win. It makes effort that much more triumphant, and it makes losing feel that much more like bloodshed.
averydoll
from Kentucky is reading Lisey's Story by Stephen KingFebruary 20, 2012 - 9:14pm
The outcome? Or the actual writing?
Because *SPOILER I felt like she just rushed though about five years of shit in one page. It was crazy. It was all telling. And it was the first time i have ever seen that in a book and knew what to call it. I didn't feel anything about the end. It literally said, "eventually me and Peeta grew back together". Total rip off. She couldn't have written at least one scene showing me an emotional connection? Showing them growing back together? It sucked.
averydoll
from Kentucky is reading Lisey's Story by Stephen KingFebruary 20, 2012 - 9:52pm
No.
It's a good story, it really is. And it is YA, so it is geared towards a younger audience. I accept that. The first book...it's sort of wonderful for what it is. But the last couple chapters were just poorly handled.
R.Moon
from 2nd circle of Inferno is reading BooksFebruary 20, 2012 - 9:55pm
I see... I've been thinking of picking it up. But, and you'll be happy to know, I am reading The Road. It took me about the first 50 pages or so to get into it, though. I'm digging it now.
Ive a question - and i speak for all nonsocial assholes out there (no i didnt ask their permission. U ever talk to those people?). Are the judges to be blinded (and no i dont mean physically or emotionally - (thats to the assholes who were thinking of posting things like that)). I mean - judging with no name - merit of the story alone - so as to protect against all the asshole discrimination. You may have covered this already, but im too lazy to check through the riff/raff. Hey! Dont discrimate against me! I will unite the lazy people world round and.... Oh... Wait. Nevermind. All the lazy people just looked at each other and shrugged. Where was i going with this? Ah hell... I dont guess it matters
averydoll
from Kentucky is reading Lisey's Story by Stephen KingFebruary 23, 2012 - 5:13pm
I think Fritz brings up a good point. There is always the concern that people will make this a popularity contest. However, I feel that because the vote is blind (no one knows who you voted for unless you broadcast it) that relieves some of that. Also the fact that for the most part the people doing the voting are serious about writing and want to be treated fairly, and will thus judge as fairly as they can.
Anyone who reviewed your story before the final will know it is yours, even if we remove the names from the final stories when we post them in the poll. I don't see a way around that. It's a little bit about trust. Also, the fact that there is no prize probably helps.
Got to be double blind. Format a way. You guys know each other. Preconceived notions will mess it up. I dont care who you are. You cannot be objective if you know the players
averydoll
from Kentucky is reading Lisey's Story by Stephen KingFebruary 23, 2012 - 5:30pm
I don't think there is a way to make it double blind and still utilize the workshop to improve the stories and work on them as a craft. I'd love a suggestion though.
You need a keeper. A guy whose account u use as a blind. Contestants send stories to keeper via pm. Keeper posts on workshop for revisions. Contestants read revisions and revise. Easy peasy. Or am i simplifying
averydoll
from Kentucky is reading Lisey's Story by Stephen KingFebruary 23, 2012 - 5:37pm
I don't know.
The issue i have are the points we use to post our stories. In order to post up a story and a revision, we are forced to review at least ...10 stories. That way we are not forced to review anything.
I ain't skeered
I hope not. My sincere hope is that everybody in this battle be convinced that they're going to win. It makes effort that much more triumphant, and it makes losing feel that much more like bloodshed.
I am. I'm man enough to admit it.
"My sincere hope is that everybody in this battle be convinced that they're going to win."
You just reminded me of American Idol. You have to be in it to win it, Dawg.
Oh. Goodbye.
*blows own brains out*
If someone isn't dead by the end of this competition, you have failed! Hunger Games it up, winner's family gets a loaf of bread.
You know every Hunger Games book is like 6 bucks at Wal Mart? Got em all today
You got ripped off - Kindle edition was even cheaper.
Yeah- call me old fashioned, but, I like the feel of a book in my hands.
I want to own some books. But others...like Hunger Games, the ebook is fine.
When you get to the end, tell me, so we can be disappointed together.
Haha, I am almost there, shouldn't take too long. Damn now I don't wanna finish it!
No, finish.
Fine, Ill let ya know. Damn, gonna be disappointed!
I'm not saying the outcome will disappoint. I am saying the writing will disappoint.
Ah, yeah it does seem written for a 14 year old. But entertaining none the less.
Not what I mean. Just finish it, then we will talk.
Roger wilco
I liked the ending.
The outcome? Or the actual writing?
Because *SPOILER I felt like she just rushed though about five years of shit in one page. It was crazy. It was all telling. And it was the first time i have ever seen that in a book and knew what to call it. I didn't feel anything about the end. It literally said, "eventually me and Peeta grew back together". Total rip off. She couldn't have written at least one scene showing me an emotional connection? Showing them growing back together? It sucked.
@Avery: Would you say that reading Hunger Games would be good education on how not to write?
No.
It's a good story, it really is. And it is YA, so it is geared towards a younger audience. I accept that. The first book...it's sort of wonderful for what it is. But the last couple chapters were just poorly handled.
I see... I've been thinking of picking it up. But, and you'll be happy to know, I am reading The Road. It took me about the first 50 pages or so to get into it, though. I'm digging it now.
I didn't care for The Road too much and the movie was awful.
I think the prose in The Road were like dark poetry. It was ugly and beautiful all at once.
I wanted to swim in them.
^wait, Hunger Games for $6? is that paperback or hardcover? been meaning to pick it up.
Paperback listed for $5.30 HERE.
What can I say?
I'm obnoxious, motherfucker, can't you tell? Run through little Havana yellin' Viva Fidel.
Cool photos Chester.
I love the vibe, guys! Especially yours, Moon. Teach 'em young!
Haha. .. the gun's bigger than him.
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Thanks Dave.
Y'all hear about those nine-year-old suicide bombers. That is fucked up.
Bumping - because that is how I roll.
@Chester - yes it was! Heart breaking.
What's your name?
Jonas
Ive a question - and i speak for all nonsocial assholes out there (no i didnt ask their permission. U ever talk to those people?). Are the judges to be blinded (and no i dont mean physically or emotionally - (thats to the assholes who were thinking of posting things like that)). I mean - judging with no name - merit of the story alone - so as to protect against all the asshole discrimination. You may have covered this already, but im too lazy to check through the riff/raff. Hey! Dont discrimate against me! I will unite the lazy people world round and.... Oh... Wait. Nevermind. All the lazy people just looked at each other and shrugged. Where was i going with this? Ah hell... I dont guess it matters
@Fritz: Judging will be done by poll that the site allows you to set up, by site members. All the voting is blind. As an example, check out:
this
I think Fritz brings up a good point. There is always the concern that people will make this a popularity contest. However, I feel that because the vote is blind (no one knows who you voted for unless you broadcast it) that relieves some of that. Also the fact that for the most part the people doing the voting are serious about writing and want to be treated fairly, and will thus judge as fairly as they can.
Anyone who reviewed your story before the final will know it is yours, even if we remove the names from the final stories when we post them in the poll. I don't see a way around that. It's a little bit about trust. Also, the fact that there is no prize probably helps.
Got to be double blind. Format a way. You guys know each other. Preconceived notions will mess it up. I dont care who you are. You cannot be objective if you know the players
I don't think there is a way to make it double blind and still utilize the workshop to improve the stories and work on them as a craft. I'd love a suggestion though.
You need a keeper. A guy whose account u use as a blind. Contestants send stories to keeper via pm. Keeper posts on workshop for revisions. Contestants read revisions and revise. Easy peasy. Or am i simplifying
Actually, that's a fantastic idea. We should ask Kirk if we can have an anonymous full account.
Shit. That's almost easy-peasy. You're onto something. But one person would never have enough points to post all those stories.
I don't know.
The issue i have are the points we use to post our stories. In order to post up a story and a revision, we are forced to review at least ...10 stories. That way we are not forced to review anything.
Post them on a thread?