I almost want to have a vote for the worst story and see if I at least won that.
It makes sense in some weird sadistic way.
Now I want to know which one was yours. At least you have your looks.
Don't forget that this is double-elimination. That Bronze race could prove to be even more intense than the one for Gold and Silver.
Besides, Gentlemen prefer Bronze.
what do you mean double-elimination? it's single-elimination, the bronze race is for those that are fighting for third and fourth place, i believe.
Is that right? Maybe that is just something that was discussed but never implemented. Or I was talking to myself telling myself that was the case. Oh well, that would be cool if it was because from what I have seen there are some eliminations threatening to take place that actually put some very, very strong writers out of contention.
But I suppose the logistics of double-elim would require a great deal more work. Maybe something to think about for future tournaments?
I assumed it was double elimination, but a bronze match is still double elimination, just a very limited sort of double elimination for the people who lost to those who went on to finals.
Yeah, I just revisited the original rules. Single-elimination. My bad. Maybe I saw that bronze and dreamt about it or something.
@Nick: But double would mean you have to lose twice. Double-elimination would not mock March Madness. One and done.
But it seems like it might allow more cream to rise to the surface.
We should do it! He-he. That would open a can of spidermoths batting their chitinous limbs!
I'll lose all day. I'm a natural born loser.
This isn't march madness, I write a story every time I lose.
Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side.
Oh yes! I *think* I may be able to actually join the workshop in the semi-near future! Excited? Yes! It looks as if I may have managed to sweet talk my way into a second job as a cheese-monger. So as soon as I have a credit card I'm allowed to use to, y'know, buy stuff, I'm pretty sure you'll see MORE of me. I know. MORE. Or less, if I'm working 7 days a week. Ugh.
Well I'm up to ten matches read and voted for so far. Some really close calls.
As for the best story poll, well at the moment I could do a top three. Picking one of those three could be tough.
Is there any need, at this point, to keep the (Un) in front of the Official?
Utah, as the new Defender of the People I request of you to put forward adding a "Contest" category so we can have all these War related threads together in one place.
i second that!
Come on litreactors, there's a couple of ties to break! Get the vote out!
I'm trailing by a couple votes. I hope you all burn in furious hellfire.
^ that made me giggle. lucky for your story the voting is blind!
Well, after thinking about it, plotting revenge against everyone who voted against me will be pretty time consuming. Instead, I've decided to reward those who voted for me. ;)
If you're too busy to plot, I'm free after the 26th. Just give me a list of names. Why not have your cake (sweet vindictive revenge) and eat it too?
Even if you have to plot against yourself? That could be strange/awkward.
Well then fuck me for thinking guidelines should be followed. I'll just shut up and go about my merry, dreadful day.
- side note: I finished watching Carnage a few minutes ago and I just feel like being an ass and not giving a shit today
Nah, I'm plotting against myself all the time. So far I'm the only enemy I've had that's lasted all these years. If I don't oppose myself, who would?
Double lives are easy. It's when your double lives have secret identities that things start getting complicated. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check my car for explosives.
Read a couple more matchups. Ten down. I love this. Feeling that creativity. We should have a Warorgy when this is over.
@Jason: For what it's worth, I pay fairly close attention to the prompt vibe. But as far as I'm concerned, it in no way has to be bulging and gushing at any point in the story.
Latent or thematic implementation of prompts are frequently more powerful anyway. However, if I am at a complete loss to sense the prompt, I will always take this into account when voting, and depending on how close the race is, it may become the deciding factor one way or the other.
I might be hard pressed to vote against a story that blew my brain socks off though, whether or not I was able to extract the prompt clearly. Especially if the story it went up against was considerably weaker.
I have already seen in a few instances where, in my opinion, a considerably weaker writer is likely moving to the next round. I suppose, just like in sports, things like this happen, although it is less common because it less frequently involves the 'judging' aspect.
From the way this is shaping up, my guess would be that there are going to be some second round obliterations taking place. Downright massacres. Unless of course voters start taking pity or revenge out while voting.
But I suppose this is War and War is scarcely fair.
What chestie said.
there's been a lot of SUPER CREATIVE prompt interpretation, but really i don't think any of them were far enough off that i even noticed - and the creativity with prompts also made me "well, shucks" a bit and think maybe i should've tried to be more creative in my interpretation.
i'll see quite a few of these in mags. and then, after a couple more drafts, quite a few more. there were several where i thought a concept was better, and had there been a few extra weeks and a few people to go in and say "look, cut this whole section, quicken the pace here, have this happen before this other thing, and BAM! that's fucking awesome," that story would've been the one i picked. so i really don't see a lot of losers n these stories, just room for improvement into awesomeness. that says a lot for stories that have had no editorial eyes...
A lot of the match ups I thought were divided in that one was written really well technically and the prose worked great, and the other took a little teeth-baring to read through but the story/plots were composed really well. It was really tough to decide which ones were worth the vote. A few were just all around good.
I'm ready for the authors to be revealed. I wanna know who wrote what. When's the voting til, Friday or Sunday?
The cool thing is all of the work this has generated.
I love the social aspect of it. I suck at writing alone. Well, I suck at writing, but especially dislike the lonesome aspect. This at least creates a less lonely, less suicidal atmosphere.
I don't know. I got pretty suicidal.
Well, I am always suicidal. But this way I am socially suicidal. There is a distinct difference.
I just put a similar post to this in another forum, but i'll say it here too. The tournament has been great. It offered us to focus our creativity, then be a part of a bigger thing than ourselves - something social. We got feedback, glorious feedback! But when it's over, there is a physical let-down if you win or not. Now we have to go back into ourselves and create something else. There is a gap there that we have to jump over and start writing again.
I find the coolness of the blade dancing on my wrist a wonderful, comforting feeling.
Jason, you are so Morrissey right now. Tell me is your girlfriend in a coma, maybe you can talk to her on your ouija board.
i've put down my gun. i don't need to/want to use it on any of you. all i need is my badass eyeliner tats and cokewhore make-up.
Sweet mandalynn! Lookin sharp honeybunches!
I keep playing the guess game and I think I spotted Moon's, Nick Wiczwinlsky's, and a couple more (besides their opponents duh). I'm writing their names in the files properties, let's see if I know my chickens, lol.
I'm also socially destructive! And stalkative!
So, there are TWO ties right now. Who hasn't voted yet? And this goes till Sunday and Utah has a tie breaker if it comes down to that?
As far as spotting stories, there are a few that I think I spot, but I'd bet money on Richard's after having just read his last thunderdome comp with Laurence, and I'd bet a kidney I know which one Nikkis is. Which, by the way, I choose cause the language was so fucking out there and I loved it, though the other story was good in its own way. Ha, come to think of it, I don't even remember if it followed the prompt or not! It was a real kick in the brain balls and I just clicked on it for my vote like a zombie.
Ah! One tie just broken! Another one needs to be taken care of, and there's a few that could still go either way people!
My vacation started this morning, so I'm trolling this site a bit before I go to Gettsyburg. Staying at a haunted bed and breakfast for a few days, called the Farnsworth House.
@AT: Yeah, right now I'm resting on my laurels waiting to break ties. That way my knowledge of who wrote what will have as low an impact as possible on the results of the polls. At first I thought I'd have to vote to see the results of the polls, but Dakota rescued everyone from my bias by pointing out the "results" button.
oh man,don't make Utah the tiebreaker. that makes me nervous, to have one person's withheld vote determine the mover-onner. how 'bout if there's a tie, Utah can just open a few hour long emergency poll and have everyone arund/available re-vote in tie-breaker matches. OR OR we flip a coin!!!
don't think we'll end up with any ties, really. something will tip them one way or the other....
There are going to be complaints about seeding. There are going to be votes that go an unexpected direction because of that ancient adage of marketing: "There's no accounting for taste."
Understand: the positions for seeding were not historically unjustified. Most of them have been based upon workshop performance (although you are about to see a couple of upsets that were pulled off by people who we haven't seen much or any of in the workshop, making it impossible to seed them appropriately). Some were based on reputation.
But you’ve all been reading the thread as much as I have. You guys are all taking this WAR very seriously! To a level that I find both inspiring and humbling, because the spirit of good-natured competition is just incredible. And that has led to some not-so-expected results. Some folks who tend to plant lower-performance roughs in the workshop sat down and did their deadlevel best to bring the thunder as hard as they could this round. Nobody took their competitor lightly and nobody threw in the towel because they got intimidated. Nobody let anybody off the hook. And when you get people trying their best to perform at a level higher than they typically do, you’ll get unexpected results.
This initial disagreement is a testament to the fact that everybody is making this event as competitive as possible and I'm proud to be a part of that.
That said, I'd like to tell everybody who has participated in this event, while I still have all of you here in one place, thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for your participation and comradeship. You guys seriously kick ass.
I will be starting another thread (because as we all know, I love to start threads!) soon that will be dedicated to taking input from you guys on how we can make the next WAR a better, happier place to fight to the death.
this is good, healthy discussion-fighting. tis nice! i like it.
Utah.. yes, yes we'll fight to the death
It's all good. This thing really gained momentum! Awesome. And thx @typo!
@everyone thx letting me participate in this and for reading my story. I want to congratulate meat seeker for bringing her game and hope she does well in the second round. As well I will be putting gift packages together for the top 4 and the final winner will receive one of my signed inappropriate tarot decks by Daniel Donche. Packages will likely be sent in may. So of you are one of the top four make sure to message me your address. A bunch of local and not so local music and other cool stuff is going to be in the packages.
Awww... You leaving us Nikki?
Yup yup :-) but I'll still be around voting on the next rounds fo sure! My ass got smoked!
Really? Well, keep coming around. We'll miss ya.