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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. June 1, 2012 - 6:41am

@Avery, I thought the whole point of flirting was to get skewed.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 6:44am

Flirting can be a harmless, fun little time waster. Also, I've gotten a lot of free stuff by flirting.  Can't argue with results.  Free stuff that I would be happy to share with my husband (if I had one, but I don't.  I mean, legally I do.  But you know).

 

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. June 1, 2012 - 6:45am

We have much different goals.  

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz June 1, 2012 - 11:05am

I am a big proponent of women using their womanly powers to obtain things. Like at concerts, use them as fullbacks to push your way through the crowd. The sea will part for a pretty girl. Sure, you may not always be the recipient and sometimes you're just the means to an end - but you have to pay into the system.

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Jack Campbell Jr. from Lawrence, KS is reading American Rust by Phillipp Meyer June 1, 2012 - 11:43am

"Flirting can be a harmless, fun little time waster. Also, I've gotten a lot of free stuff by flirting.  Can't argue with results.  Free stuff that I would be happy to share with my husband (if I had one, but I don't.  I mean, legally I do.  But you know)"

Somewhere, deep down, that Starbucks barista hopes that giving you a free mocha will get him laid in the future. It's all about investment strategies.

Still, I have no problem with it. Flirting makes everyone feel good, as long as it doesn't result in hurt feelings and broken hearts. It's easy for harmless flirting to be lead to miscommunication.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 12:06pm

I have something else to add.  The girl at the department store is not hot for you.  It is literally her job to smile and be nice to you.  Quit being so creepy with her. 

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Jack Campbell Jr. from Lawrence, KS is reading American Rust by Phillipp Meyer June 1, 2012 - 12:07pm

The same holds true for strip clubs, although I think they expect creepy.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 12:13pm

Yeah.  I'd say the strippers invite the creepy a bit more than the girl at Macy's.  But basically it is the same, yes.

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz June 1, 2012 - 12:15pm

The same with bartenders and waitresses.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 12:28pm

I worked in customer service jobs for 11 years.  At first I was really upbeat, but it really started to wear on me, how every single guy seemed to think I wanted to go home with him just because I smiled.  So then, I started being mean to them.  Just really stand-off-ish and cold.  But eventually they took that as a sign that I was playing hard to get, or flirting in code.  So then I started just telling people, "Hey, I'm not in to you." Then they started getting really defensive and angry.  So then I went back to smiling. 

That was partly fictionalized. 

 

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GaryP from Denver is reading a bit of this and that June 1, 2012 - 12:33pm

But women still like when guys don't look them in the eyes, right?

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Jack Campbell Jr. from Lawrence, KS is reading American Rust by Phillipp Meyer June 1, 2012 - 12:34pm

I don't know, if you told me you weren't in to me, I might take that as a defensive mechanism that means you really were in to me, but were afraid of your feelings. I would try that much harder to make you see the light.

I can't imagine being a woman, honestly. I've known so many guys who had twisted, warped views of what a woman was trying to tell them. Especially if a woman was just trying to be nice. Being nice seems to get you nowhere.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 12:42pm

"I can't imagine being a woman, honestly."

It's mostly awesome.

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Jack Campbell Jr. from Lawrence, KS is reading American Rust by Phillipp Meyer June 1, 2012 - 1:10pm

Of course, you get free stuff.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 1:11pm

Yes.  And backstage at concerts. 

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Utah from Fort Worth, TX is reading Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry June 1, 2012 - 2:07pm

And pregnant.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 2:15pm

Not if you use birth control like a good little slut. 

 

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. June 1, 2012 - 2:17pm

I love that sentence.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human June 1, 2012 - 2:19pm

^Exactly.

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz June 1, 2012 - 2:19pm

^^^^^ If drug companies haven't hired you or paid you a lot of money for marketing, they should. Feel free to list me as a reference, furnished upon request.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 2:23pm

Clearly this is my winning quote of the day. 

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OtisTheBulldog from Somerville, MA is reading The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz June 1, 2012 - 2:46pm

I want to steal it (with your permission). I want to use it in coversation tonight. I'm not sure how well it will go. I'll let you all know.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 1, 2012 - 3:16pm

Didn't we have this conversation on Valentines. Fuck buying women stuff or drinks or something. I work hard for my money and tell them as such and get THEM to buy me stuff. Or at least split things. I have to be serious on the way to being serious before my wallet will open. The only exceptions are actual dates and even then it's iffy. 

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 1, 2012 - 3:45pm

The last time I truly asked a girl out, she said that she was out of town. Now, I'm just asking everyone out because I'm wanting to get more "asking out" experience.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 1, 2012 - 4:08pm

Otis, you can use it in conversation, but you must tell me the results.

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 1, 2012 - 4:37pm

Matt, if you were a woman, I'd marry you. I'd totally split the costs on everything. Occasionally treat you out to a favorite meal. Wait, I think I'm flirting. I don't know these things. Am I flirting?

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 1, 2012 - 4:55pm

I am flattered young lady. Thank you. Flirting is more about body language, attitude or how you say things as opposed to what you say. That was flirting though. 

Also, dont get me wrong, once I'm with someone, I like taking care of them or doing nice things, it's just a matter of getting to that point. 

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 1, 2012 - 11:26pm

Also, dont get me wrong, once I'm with someone, I like taking care of them or doing nice things, it's just a matter of getting to that point.

I think this is where I get in trouble. I'm nice to everyone. In fact, I went above and beyond the call of duty yesterday for work for a customer. I made a special trip. Sighs...I'm super nice to everyone. People aren't used to this niceness. Of course, I do have a temper sometimes when it's that time of the month. I keep my cool like 95% of the time. Plus, with my martial arts discipline, I don't pick fights all that often. I think I like to try to protect people like a superhero or something. I need sleep. I am rambling.

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Matt Attack from Richmond, Va. is reading As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner June 2, 2012 - 1:52am

Nothing wrong with being nice. The best thing to do is let people earn the right to get that side of you, in the same way you earn that from them

 

Also, everytime I see your screen name I think of this. 

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 2, 2012 - 12:43pm

ROCK LOBSTER! Maybe I should change my name back to VerboseLobster?

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 2, 2012 - 12:49pm

Matt, I work things differently than most people. Innocent until proven guilty. Trust until one loses my trust. Sure, I don't mind earning things. Life is just too complicated in general to keep track of who I trust, but I guess I do that naturally. Maybe it's the customer service sense in me.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 2, 2012 - 2:24pm

"Innocent until proven guilty"

As in, I'm not doing anything wrong until I get caught.  Right?

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 2, 2012 - 4:39pm

As in, I'm not doing anything wrong until I get caught.  Right?

I really need to work on my examples. I'm confusing everyone. "Innocent until proven guilty" is like I trust people until they give me a reason to not trust them anymore. Then again, people give this vibe sometimes right off the bat. Generally, I am a trusting individual.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 2, 2012 - 5:16pm

Iknew what you meant, I just wanted to give you a hard time.  You're fine.

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underpurplemoon from PDX June 2, 2012 - 7:28pm

Iknew what you meant, I just wanted to give you a hard time.  You're fine.

In case you're wondering, I'm in the dictionary twice...dork and gullible.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters June 3, 2012 - 10:55am

Hah - that was funny.  No, it's hard to understand tone over the internet.