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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:38pm
yes
69% (11 votes)
no
31% (5 votes)
Total votes: 16

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:40pm

female characters interest me, and i find myself occasionaly stuck with an idea/narrator that i can't quite see as being male, BUT that's a lot of money for me. a couple people here are familiar with some of my work, and to those people, i ask: do i even need to bother?

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:44pm

also, im voting no, because i didnt put on a third "chuck's throwaway vote" option for myself because people voted for it last time. my vote will not factor into any decision i make

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. March 5, 2012 - 3:44pm

I thought about taking it just for that reason. I can't shake my default male narrators and my female characters are always slutty. 

I'd take this class if I had the money but maybe next time. 

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 3:44pm

Yes! And then tell me everything you learned. LOL! I want to take that workshop so bad...

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:46pm

moon: i would do that, if people chipped in.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 3:46pm

Christa is an amazing writer. Her female protags are well rounded, tight (no pun intended) and interesting. Her style is very harboiled noir.

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PandaMask from Los Angeles is reading More Than Human March 5, 2012 - 3:47pm

Same here.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 3:47pm

Charles: It'd be cool to do that, but I'd want direct feedback from Christa herself. 

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:50pm

and see, i dont know how i could give you that, unless i supplied her with your work, and that wouldnt help me...

i mean, with the blessing of people involved, i would obviously give you as much material as i could.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 3:53pm

No worries. If I did it, I'd want to go full in. All or nothing, you know...

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. March 5, 2012 - 3:53pm

Cool idea but thats probably not allowed or at least very frowned upon. Let's not take food out of the teacher's mouths. 

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. March 5, 2012 - 3:54pm

If I did it, I'd want to go full in. All or nothing, you know...

 

Thats what she said..

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Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading March 5, 2012 - 3:54pm

Yeah, that probably... wouldn't be too cool.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 3:56pm

times like this i wish there was a scholarship program in place for the reactor's resident gimp.

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. March 5, 2012 - 3:58pm

Love the new avatar Phil. Whats it from?

Hmmm...

A Litreactor scholarship? I like that idea. It could be used as a door prize giveaway. 

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Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading March 5, 2012 - 3:56pm

It's a picture of Ezra Pound in his old age.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 4:03pm

Looks like Pound is frozen. Maybe him and Disney have a pod together.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:06pm

two for one?

haha

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:06pm

I wander if my life insurance policy covers "pods."

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:07pm

wonder.

to wander is to go about aimlessly.

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:08pm

Exactly. I don't have life insurance. Plus if I always use the auto-correct, I'll never learn anything.

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Jack from England is reading texts of rejection from pretty ladies March 5, 2012 - 4:09pm

Charles has a dictionary.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 5, 2012 - 4:09pm

Not having life insurance just means you are worth more alive than dead!  Yay!

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:13pm

jack: charles has been working as an editor, writer, and full time college student (all of them to varied degrees) for twelve years. he can spell almost anything, and can usually define something, even if ive never heard it before, by its use in a sentence, provided it was used correctly.

my girlfriend uses me as her spell check constantly. it's kind of annoying.

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Jack from England is reading texts of rejection from pretty ladies March 5, 2012 - 4:14pm

Charles is a dictionary.

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:15pm

Charles. Are you for hire?

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 5, 2012 - 4:16pm

If I had the extra money I would give it to you Moon. There would be strings attached of course, I would need your first born child.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:17pm

dakota: yes. but i sometimes work slow because of previous (mentioned) engagements

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 4:18pm

@Alien: Thanks buddy, but I doubt my sperm would be able to procreate from all the pot I've smoked.

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:19pm

I may contact you for your services in the future. Maybe I can pay you in Trident Layers. Maybe not. 

Sexual favors are mandatory, not optional. 

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Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading March 5, 2012 - 4:19pm

As much as I would love to get involved in a spelling contest with someone who's been an undergraduate for twelve years (couldn't resist!) and someone called "Jack" like in Fight Club (again!!!), I just want to say: Please, everyone, if you do sign up for a course on LitReactor, don't share the material. It's not fair to the instructors, to the organizers, and to the other people who paid.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 5, 2012 - 4:22pm

Fylh, when's the last time you guys tried to contact will chris baer for a class?

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Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading March 5, 2012 - 4:23pm

Baer did a course over at the Cult once, but as far as I know he's been completely vanished for a while. I can ask the others about it.

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:23pm

I don't think Craig has even heard from him.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 4:28pm

 I just want to say: Please, everyone, if you do sign up for a course on LitReactor, don't share the material. It's not fair to the instructors, to the organizers, and to the other people who paid.

- I agree Phil. I would want direct feedback and direct attention from the instructor. I'm trying to figure out a way to raise the money, but it's not looking too promising. All I can hope for at this point is that Ms. Faust comes back again for another intensive.

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 5, 2012 - 4:29pm

I volunteer to write an impassioned letter of persuasion to him. Not joking. I can be very convincing.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 4:31pm

It's not the letter I'm worried about with you, Alien. It's your definition of 'impassioned' that worries me.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:35pm

to chris?

i think all the contact with the velvet, coupled with the fact that chris admitted to having a creepy stalker chick, and the blatant ripoff of his book that came out on DVD a few years ago, have ruined him on the public.

and then you factor in that cage 'restructured' and was (i think) sued for not paying people, and that he was one of their top sellers, im just guessing here, but he's probably not in love with the publishing world right now either. besides, their mock-up covers (remember those) were ripoffs of other covers, one of them being a stephanie meyer book....

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aliensoul77 from a cold distant star is reading the writing on the wall. March 5, 2012 - 4:42pm

Actually Moon, I wrote him a dirty email once and he wrote me back and said I shit you not, "You got a purty mouth, boy. Sorry but I'm married." Greatest moment of my life. Is that creepy to admit?

Yeah but despite all that you would think he would want to make some extra cash teaching at least. Maybe if I cut his name in my arm and mail him my hair?

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:46pm

i have a friend who claims to have random contact with him, so i dont think he's dead, cause i trust this dude. i think he just needs some space.

and fuck, maybe GODSPEED has become to chris what CUT MAN has to katherine dunn. she's been on that book for something like eleven years.

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. March 5, 2012 - 4:48pm

He has a kid too I think so theres that.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:50pm

also, fuck it i think im taking the intensive. i just wish i had seen it before i used the money in my savings account to buy other shit

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. March 5, 2012 - 4:53pm

There hasn't been a class offered that I haven't wanted to take really badly.  This one, though, I'm really interested in the results from the graduates.  Compelling female leads are just not prevelant enough in transgressive fiction (although they do exist).  I can't wait to see some of the results hit the workshop.

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Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones March 5, 2012 - 4:55pm

howie, this is why im interested. most of the other classes, i have felt i could cobble together from other authors ive had the fortune to talk to about craft and editing and such, but ive never met anyone that talked to me about how to write good women (particularly, if i wasnt one)

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. March 5, 2012 - 4:58pm

I just bought BUTCH FATALE: DYKE DICK in DOUBLE-D DOUBLE CROSS.  Can't wait to read it.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 5, 2012 - 4:58pm

I've read it.

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. March 5, 2012 - 4:59pm

and?  stop teasing me.

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avery of the dead from Kentucky is reading Cipher Sisters March 5, 2012 - 5:00pm

I think you'll be very comfortable with it.

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R.Moon from The City of Champions is reading The Last Thing He Wanted by Joan Didion; Story Structure Architect by Victoria Lynn Schimdt PH.D; Creating Characters by the editors of Writer's Digest March 5, 2012 - 5:01pm

Money Shot is great

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bryanhowie from FW, ID is reading East of Eden. Steinbeck is FUCKING AMAZING. March 5, 2012 - 5:07pm

@Avery So, you're saying it's super dirty?